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Offline TxGrayhat

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #100 on: September 15, 2010, 03:01:30 PM »
I would pay them $25 a year also to leave me alone and not send me any BS emails.  If they would have pushed this as a tax and not a we are going to change the way your group has opperated that would have been more well received then what they are trying to do now.  Fact remains they did a horrible job rolling this out.  They ignored all dynamic change best practices and they now have a cluster to clean up.

Shoot Fire Id give TASO, TAPPS and UIL $25-50 each if this were all to just go away.  Then they could decide what they wanna do and what areas of control each would have.  I would register with the UIL and pay them to allow me to call UIL schools. My Chapter could stay TASO... EVERYONE WINS and EVERYONE LOSES...TIED Ballgame. No Overtime.
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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #101 on: September 15, 2010, 03:08:30 PM »
The court better hurry up because A) A lot of referees are getting jumpy and about to sign up with UIL, and B) the chapters are going to ALL look bad if this comes down to late October and all of a sudden there ain't enuf refs.  If I were a chapter secretary, I'd want to know EXACTLY who is in and who is out no later than next week so I could start working with coaches that last 3 weeks of the season.  Some of those 5th place teams vs 6th place teams might not be playing week 10.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #102 on: September 15, 2010, 03:16:06 PM »
There is a hearing scheduled in October.  Folks ought to be willing to wait at least until then if not longer. There will be enough refs to cover the games. UIL said so. 

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #103 on: September 15, 2010, 07:20:32 PM »
When in October?

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #104 on: September 15, 2010, 09:46:19 PM »
Target is the first week. Don't know if a time/date has been confirmed yet.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #105 on: September 16, 2010, 05:54:37 AM »
I would pay 25.00 a year to the UIL to  leave us the Hell alone.

I would let them pay me a $50 annual registration fee and then leave us the Hell alone!

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #106 on: September 16, 2010, 09:51:12 AM »
I'm with TXMike ... everybody just needs to chill out.   There is no reason to get all worked up about this now and no need to jump to go register.   Nov 1st is a long way away.  It's obvious is that is to get everybody all nervous and excited.   And based on the "sky is falling, do something now" posts, it's working.

Just let the lawsuits and courts take it's action.   There will be plenty enough time to react to the final answer regardless of which way it goes.  We just need to be worried about calling a good game this week!

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #107 on: September 16, 2010, 10:03:59 AM »
I'm with TXMike ... everybody just needs to chill out.   There is no reason to get all worked up about this now and no need to jump to go register.   Nov 1st is a long way away.  It's obvious is that is to get everybody all nervous and excited.   And based on the "sky is falling, do something now" posts, it's working.

Just let the lawsuits and courts take it's action.   There will be plenty enough time to react to the final answer regardless of which way it goes.  We just need to be worried about calling a good game this week!

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #108 on: September 16, 2010, 12:39:00 PM »
Today, Houston Chapter TASO members received an email from Tommy Moore, Executive Secretary, stating he'd been invited to attend a meeting next Tuesday to discuss UIL registration. It went on to say he thought there'd be be representatives from Dallas, Ft. Worth, Austin and San Antonio in attendance, as well.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #109 on: September 16, 2010, 01:02:45 PM »
Today, Houston Chapter TASO members received an email from Tommy Moore, Executive Secretary, stating he'd been invited to attend a meeting next Tuesday to discuss UIL registration. It went on to say he thought there'd be be representatives from Dallas, Ft. Worth, Austin and San Antonio in attendance, as well.

Thats nice. I wish they would conf in the rest of the state???

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #110 on: September 16, 2010, 01:53:44 PM »
Thats nice. I wish they would conf in the rest of the state???

Normally I would agree.  However, I get the feeling that UIL is getting really nervous over the possibililty of the lack of registrations.  Perhaps, since these chapters mentioned, are the larger chapters in TASO, that if they declare that their members are not interested in being UIL registered, that the UIL may begin to see the sign that we (the majority) are not budging on our stance.  In reality, the chapters mentioned would make either TASO or UIL sink their ship if they went with either organization.  That's not to say that any chapter would cause the same effects, but the UIL seems to be only concerned over those big ones because the belief is that the rest of the chapters will follow the chapters mentioned.  I have a hunch that the UIL is about to be forced to back off if this said meeting takes place.  TASO now has the upper hand.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #111 on: September 16, 2010, 02:00:53 PM »
Normally I would agree.  However, I get the feeling that UIL is getting really nervous over the possibililty of the lack of registrations.  Perhaps, since these chapters mentioned, are the larger chapters in TASO, that if they declare that their members are not interested in being UIL registered, that the UIL may begin to see the sign that we (the majority) are not budging on our stance.  In reality, the chapters mentioned would make either TASO or UIL sink their ship if they went with either organization.  That's not to say that any chapter would cause the same effects, but the UIL seems to be only concerned over those big ones because the belief is that the rest of the chapters will follow the chapters mentioned.  I have a hunch that the UIL is about to be forced to back off if this said meeting takes place.  TASO now has the upper hand.


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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #112 on: September 17, 2010, 03:49:12 PM »
Guys just putting all this on the back burner for now, and im going to enjoy a great night on the field with my crew. Good luck to everyone tonight. And this inculudes onery1.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #113 on: September 17, 2010, 04:03:47 PM »
GAME DAY!  Time to get ready.  I wish you all safe travels and great games!  Man I love being a football official! ^good

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #114 on: September 21, 2010, 01:31:57 PM »
I just got an email thanking me for registering.   ???   I am wondering if I am automatically already registered because our basketball chapter went UIL last year.  If so, that would mean all officials in multiple sports whose other sport chapter has gone UIL would be registered.  I guess this means I can do playoff games...but I still plan to wait and see what our football leadership directs us to do.  If they say don't register, then I will not consider myself registered for football.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #115 on: September 21, 2010, 01:43:55 PM »
"I just got an email thanking me for registering.   Huh   I am wondering if I am automatically already registered because our basketball chapter went UIL last year.  If so, that would mean all officials in multiple sports whose other sport chapter has gone UIL would be registered.  I guess this means I can do playoff games...but I still plan to wait and see what our football leadership directs us to do.  If they say don't register, then I will not consider myself registered for football."

Not at all surprising.  I suspect that the UIL, when determining the success of football registration, will count as "registered" all officials who registered for other sports and also do football.  I don't know what to do about that.

Did hear a rumor that the UIL will stop letting officials who are not working get into games for free (actually that's about a direct quote from Mr. Timmons).

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #116 on: September 21, 2010, 01:46:22 PM »
"Did hear a rumor that the UIL will stop letting officials who are not working get into games for free (actually that's about a direct quote from Mr. Timmons)."

Well that would kill trying to get guys to go out and evaluate.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #117 on: September 21, 2010, 02:02:50 PM »
Did hear a rumor that the UIL will stop letting officials who are not working get into games for free (actually that's about a direct quote from Mr. Timmons).

That guy or gal working the pass gate could care less.  95% of the time, you just flash a card their way and they let you in.

That reminds me.  Did we get TASO membership cards this year?  I don't think so.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #118 on: September 21, 2010, 02:23:01 PM »
"Did hear a rumor that the UIL will stop letting officials who are not working get into games for free (actually that's about a direct quote from Mr. Timmons)."

Well that would kill trying to get guys to go out and evaluate.


I heard of a game this year where coaches scouting for next week were charged to get in the gate!


It was a Parochial school and the coaches were with UIL schools. I don't think that had anything to do with it but still..........................
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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #119 on: September 21, 2010, 02:32:48 PM »
We should not be getting in for free anyway since our brother's pay is based on gate. 

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #120 on: September 21, 2010, 02:40:35 PM »
I knew Mike would chime in.  How many times have we had this discussion???

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #121 on: September 21, 2010, 02:43:58 PM »
More than we should have to but some folks are just hard headed (and cheap).

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #122 on: September 21, 2010, 02:51:42 PM »
Or just hard headed.

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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #123 on: September 21, 2010, 03:02:42 PM »
I just got an email thanking me for registering.   ???   I am wondering if I am automatically already registered because our basketball chapter went UIL last year.  If so, that would mean all officials in multiple sports whose other sport chapter has gone UIL would be registered.  I guess this means I can do playoff games...but I still plan to wait and see what our football leadership directs us to do.  If they say don't register, then I will not consider myself registered for football.

I also received that e-mail.
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Re: Who is in Who is out?
« Reply #124 on: September 21, 2010, 11:52:42 PM »
 ^flag

Question: Can a member of TASO(provided that TASO gives its constituency express permission to do so) register with the UIL by filling out a paper registration form; or must this be done online? If so, what about those poor souls that don't exactly own or even make use of computers? Is the UIL in any way prepared to mail out paper registration forms to all those individuals who might possibly request them?  Also, in such a scenario, why couldn't TASO members just register with the UIL through the TASO website or manually through TASO and have TASO directly pass that info along to the Manor Road Crowd with little to no direct interaction between TASO members and the UIL.  This would minimize the UIL's loading its database with email addresses that it no doubt would start sending out spam to. Let the UIL go ahead and send out bulk-rate letters. It would prove more costly and I don't really think that the vast majority of us would mind hastily throwing them into the round file! Just a thought!  z^
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