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fbljuj

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When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« on: February 01, 2011, 03:38:23 PM »
Is it Sept. yet? While discussing in our Movie Night last week (yes, what a concept. Get to get out of the house, watch football videos for an hour and a half, Thank You Mr. Summertime for the Aloha films, and oh yea go out for a couple of root beers afterwards) we had a long discussion on targetting a defenseless player. The words, when in doubt came up and philosophies. I am not aware of either of these listed in the rule book or anywhere else. In NCAA, there is a section of the rule book for when in doubt and on several of the NCAA Conference web sites, you can find their philophies which are pretty similar. Anyone know of such a thing for high school football and if not, can we make one up?

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 04:13:05 PM »
From the NFHS Official's Manual:

GUIDES FOR - “WHEN IN QUESTION”
• Incomplete pass or fumble ............incomplete pass
• Accidental or intentional ......................accidental
   a. Contact
   b. Touching
   c. Kicking
• Forward or backward pass ......................forward
• Kick or pass touched or not...........................not
• Catch or not........................................no catch
• Passer has thrown or fumbled ..............has thrown
• Legal block or clip ......................................legal
• Touchback or safety ...........................touchback
• Block above or below the waist ...................above
• Fumble or dead ball ...............................dead ball
• 5-15 Face Mask.............................................15
• 5-15 Kicker/Holder .........................................15

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 09:55:10 PM »
Reddings NFHS Guide has a 1 1/2 page appendix for When In Doubt.

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2011, 12:19:37 AM »
From the NFHS Official's Manual:

GUIDES FOR - “WHEN IN QUESTION”
• Incomplete pass or fumble ............incomplete pass
• Accidental or intentional ......................accidental
   a. Contact
   b. Touching
   c. Kicking
• Forward or backward pass ......................forward
• Kick or pass touched or not...........................not
• Catch or not........................................no catch
• Passer has thrown or fumbled ..............has thrown
• Legal block or clip ......................................legal
• Touchback or safety ...........................touchback
• Block above or below the waist ...................above
• Fumble or dead ball ...............................dead ball
• 5-15 Face Mask.............................................15
• 5-15 Kicker/Holder .........................................15
I review these in every pregame.

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2011, 04:02:21 PM »
When the runner starts behind his own GL and attempts to get out of the end zone, and there is doubt about whether he got the ball out or not -- YES he did get out.

Legal formation with 7 lineman or not -- Make them LEGAL

fbljuj

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2011, 04:29:11 PM »
Wow, and our interpreter was in the audience, egg on my face too. I do not see targetting a defenseless player or does that come under contact? Thanks for all of your help.

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2011, 07:11:17 PM »
Wow, and our interpreter was in the audience, egg on my face too.

Just remember it was a coach that found that list in the Official's Manual!   ;D

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2011, 07:40:23 PM »
Catch or No Catch: I believe this is changing around football and not just games with replay. The idea is that if we are not sure why take it away from the kid. Any thoughts or feedback on this idea?
« Last Edit: February 02, 2011, 10:35:08 PM by Sumstine »

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2011, 10:11:12 PM »
When the runner starts behind his own GL and attempts to get out of the end zone, and there is doubt about whether he got the ball out or not -- YES he did get out.

Just please, for the love of the officiating gods, if you're a wingman giving the benefit of the doubt, come in and give a spot MORE than a football's length from the goalline.  It may be "urban legend", but our association has a story about a wing who came in and gave a forward progress spot about 5 inches in front of the goal line...   hEaDbAnG

One I didn't see above but have heard before - if contact is in the back, and there is doubt about whether it was above or below the waist, the contact as below the waist.

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2011, 03:06:08 PM »
Just remember it was a coach that found that list in the Official's Manual!   ;D

A broken clock is right twice a day, you've got one more chance to be right coming.

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2011, 03:16:41 PM »
Just remember it was a coach that found that list in the Official's Manual!   ;D
Funniest thing I've seen in a while and you are correct, sir.

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 04:51:24 AM »
A broken clock is right twice a day, you've got one more chance to be right coming.
Actually a stopped clock is right twice a day. A broken clock might be loosing a minute per day, and then it would only be right... every 720 days - a little less than every 2 years. Seemd more approriate  ;D

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Re: When in doubt, philosophies for High School Football
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 02:08:35 PM »
A good rule to follow is "Nothing comes cheaply".
No cheap turnovers, no cheap scores, etc.