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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: younggun on September 25, 2010, 01:52:46 AM
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Guys... I think I had a bone head moment... Help with out with a rules reference and maybe a case book play. Thanks
1st and 10 at B's 40. A1 Runs the ball to the B-20 where he goes out of bounds. During the play, A8 holds at the B-29.
All-but-one
10 yards from the spot of the foul... so the B-39 is where the ball will be after the enforcement. Question is does A get a new series of downs because they gained the first with 'clean hands'. So should it be 1st and 10 from the B-39 or 1st and 9 from the B-39 (replay the down)
Thanks
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1st and 9, replay the down.
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Guys... I think I had a bone head moment... Help with out with a rules reference and maybe a case book play. Thanks
1st and 10 at B's 40. A1 Runs the ball to the B-20 where he goes out of bounds. During the play, A8 holds at the B-29.
All-but-one
10 yards from the spot of the foul... so the B-39 is where the ball will be after the enforcement. Question is does A get a new series of downs because they gained the first with 'clean hands'. So should it be 1st and 10 from the B-39 or 1st and 9 from the B-39 (replay the down)
Thanks
"Clean hands" refers to COP situations.
If A had committed a dead ball foul, they would get the benefit of the 20 yds gained; then the penalty would be enforced from that point (the succeeding spot); and the result would be a 1st down for A after enforcement.
But in your play they get the benefit of only an 11 yd gain; so your "all but one" enforcement spot would correctly be B's 29. Back 10. Replay the down.
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"Clean hands" refers to COP situations.
Sorry, you asked for Rules/Case Book references. Basically, refer to 10 RB: 10-4 (basic spot enforcement) and to CB Play 10.2.2 (sit B).
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Since it's a live ball (and not a nonplayer or USC), enforce the penalty, and then determine the next down. Replay 1st down after enforcement of the penalty.
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The other applicable rule references are 5-1-2a and 5-2-2.
I have previously assigned my Linesman to do a pre-game on Rule 5. Nice short rule that is a must know for the Linesman.