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National Federation Discussion / Re: Punt play : Did I get it wrong?
« Last post by blandis on Today at 01:11:19 AM »
That ball has got to practically laying still for a new force to be added by B's accidental muff. TD. Good call.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: sunglasses
« Last post by blandis on Today at 01:04:51 AM »
At one point football officials didn't wear hats. At some point they decided to join the 20th Century and began wearing them sometime after World War II. At one point baseball umpires wouldn't be caught dead wearing sunglasses, now it is common. Why? BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE BETTER! DUH! In our association sunglasses are permitted except for Varsity games. This only affects the rare Varsity Saturday afternoon game. This policy is strictly for appearance. 
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Give these coaches an education and don't be shy about it.
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General Discussion / Re: Coach arrested after altercation
« Last post by JasonTX on Yesterday at 08:52:30 PM »
Remember, if you are ejecting someone for coming on to the field during a fight, you ought to have thrown a flag for fighting.  Our crew got taken to the woodshed several years ago for ejecting a player for coming off the bench for a fight but no one flagged the fight.

I don't disagree with putting a flag down but every official throwing flags seems like overkill.  It looks like every official tossed every flag they had.  I've seen flags end up missing in situations like this. 
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Dew-Rags
« Last post by BIG DON on Yesterday at 08:51:21 PM »
one of the biggest things I am seeing this year are schools that have order pants that look like bicycle shorts in the past and not any money to replace them this year,  they come out during pregame with knees uncovered, While talking to the coaches I am doing a quick scan and give the coaches the numbers of players that the pants need to be addressed, been told the last two weeks that they will have their players ready by game time.  Now when we are on the field we give a complete list of numbers to coaches of players that need to be address and remind them they have signed a card saying all of their players are legally equipped, I how ever begin to think that coaches think that Cast are the only concern in legally equipped.  even during are pregame meeting I go over what we are looking for. 
In the last two weeks for the first part of the 1st quarter I have ran players off the field for knees not covered because of the high water pants,  I have seen them pulled down and taped in place to keep them from riding up.  The rib pads on the back we just tell them to get them covered and this is taking care of without delay of the play clock.  Play cards are now not a problem over the last couple of years we got for the most part those cards taken care of and worn on the wrist where they belong.

Now I have quite a collection of the rubber live strong type bracelets these are just as bad a the high waters it seems no matter how much I preach to coaches and players they constantly come on the field with them.  I try to have a meeting with teams in the Area before season and go over the rule changes and what is expected of players and what and how to wear uniforms might as well be talking to a wall on some issues
   
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Dew-Rags
« Last post by scrounge on Yesterday at 08:28:07 PM »
It is a 15 yard USC penalty assessed against the HC if called. This is illegal equipment, not improperly worn equipment. There is a difference in the enforcement. Illegal equipment is still an USC foul against the HC.

It's not illegal to have the bandana, it just can't be poking out from the helmet. So I'd say it is indeed just improperly worn equipment. And even if not? Just send the player off unless you think the coach is trying to pull a fast one. You'll be on the fast track to "That Guy" if you hit them for 15 for this.
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Texas Topics / Re: Coin Toss - don't let captain screw up
« Last post by JasonTX on Yesterday at 07:53:51 PM »
Had a coin toss and the winner said kick.  I repeated the question and he was adamant that his coach wanted them to kick.  So, I turn the other other team to see which end they wanted to receive the ball on and then I immediately went to the coach to let him know his captain just shafted his team and that they would be kicking to start both halves.  He said that is exactly what he wanted.  "We want to set the tone of both halves with our defense." 
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General Discussion / Re: Coach arrested after altercation
« Last post by js in sc on Yesterday at 07:53:43 PM »
Remember, if you are ejecting someone for coming on to the field during a fight, you ought to have thrown a flag for fighting.  Our crew got taken to the woodshed several years ago for ejecting a player for coming off the bench for a fight but no one flagged the fight.
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General Discussion / Re: Coach arrested after altercation
« Last post by JasonTX on Yesterday at 07:46:23 PM »
Do all those flags really need to be thrown?  Just stand back and be a witness and write numbers down.  No need for 10 flags to be tossed.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Arkansas needs some lessons in fair catch signals
« Last post by OSU65 on Yesterday at 05:19:11 PM »
Larry Brown Sports on the N Texas play.

Here’s why the play should not be allowed.

Punt returns and kick returns are among the most dangerous plays in football. Players are running at full speed and collisions happen at all angles, which can potentially result in severe injuries. Football rules have evolved to try and make these plays more safe. On punt returns, returners are allowed to signal for a fair catch, which prevents them from advancing the ball, but more importantly, prevents them from being hit.

Players on the punt coverage teams — the gunners — are instructed not to hit a player who has called for a fair catch to avoid being penalized. If there is any doubt about whether a returner called for fair catch, these players are operating on good faith by not hitting the returner. That good faith should not be abused and taken advantage of in the way North Texas did.

If there is ever confusion about whether a fair catch was called, you want players erring on the side of caution and player safety by showing restraint and not hitting a vulnerable punt returner. By allowing teams to toy with this good faith through fakes, you are incentivizing punt coverage teams to hit the punt returner in cases of doubt. This could also lead to retribution hits as well. These types of hits could lead to serious injuries, which is what the sport is trying to eliminate.

This sort of play should never have been conceived, practiced, or used by North Texas, and it shouldn’t be allowed. The referees on the field should not have allowed it. The NCAA needs to step up immediately and ban the play if they care about player safety as much as they claim to.
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