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National Federation Discussion / Re: SANTA'S WISH LIST....2026 version
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on Yesterday at 02:31:08 PM »
Allow me to try again; YOU (alone) have a decision to make, based on what YOU (alone) have observed. Or did you consider the contact (YOU) observed excessive, dangerous, deliberate, intentional, intended to be otherwise harmful or excessive, or was it incidental to the action and DID NOT cause UNREASONABLE/EXCESSIVE risk, harm, or threat, to the intended defender. iT'S your DECISION, BASED ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE RULE & OBSERVATION.


Wow, IMHO much, much simpler than that.  Open palm, fixed extended arm at contact - legal.  A wind up and forceful blow to the head, a foul.  Pretty simple IMHO.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Batting/Fumble/EZ question
« Last post by ilyazhito on Yesterday at 12:44:46 PM »
I agree. If A ends up with possession of a dead ball in B's end zone, it should be a TD.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Batting/Fumble/EZ question
« Last post by ElvisLives on March 05, 2026, 03:52:35 PM »
I never got my panties in a twist about this ruling because it will never happen.  I don't agree with Shaw on this one.  The result of the play should be B 1/10 @ B6.  This is my own personal theory...  4th down fumble rule, the ball instantly is brought back to the spot of the fumble after the recovery.  The physical recovery spot is not the actual end of the play.  Therefore the impetus/safety/touchback discussion is irrelevant. Absent the 4th down fumble rule, this play is a touchdown. Nothing to do with impetus.

Actually, impetus is involved in EVERY touchdown, safety, and touchback. 8-7-1 doesn't make a distinction regarding the result of the ball being dead on/above/behind a goal line - only who is responsible for it being there when it becomes dead. 8-2-1 tells us the result is a touchdown, under certain conditions. 8-5-1 tells us the result is a safety, under certain conditions. 8-6-1 tells us the result is a touchback, under certain conditions. But all conditions have one team, or the other, responsible for the ball being on/above/behind the goal line (impetus).

At this point, though, I think we are all mystified as to how the result of the down is a safety - and not a touchdown - in AR 8-5-1-XI.
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Texas Topics / interesting $ numbers for championship game officials payments
« Last post by dammitbobby on March 05, 2026, 12:48:00 PM »
Some interesting numbers from a UIL Open Records Request I submitted related to state championship football games officials payments for 2025 (I actually requested, and got, data from 2021-present). The average total official pay was $1,276.96.

The lowest on-field official pay, including meal/travel, was $310; the highest on-field official pay (including travel/meal) was $2,285.  (The highest total pay for on on-field official was in 2023, $2751.64)

Alternate officials were paid $50 flat fee, no mileage, no meal fee, no per diem.

The highest grossing game in gate receipts (team sales + onsite receipts), was 5ADII Richmond Randle vs SOC, which brought in a whopping $289,618.33.

The lowest grossing was 1ADII, Richland Springs vs Jayton, which brought in $40,170.

To compute pay, they combine the home + visitor ticket sales, and for each day (3 games), they take the total onsite gate and /3 and allocate that to each game.

Total gate revenue (home team sales + visitor team sales + onsite sales) = $1,748,455.00 

In 2020, total honorariums (just game fees) for on-field officials came out to $69,990. In 2025, it was $93,000.

None of these numbers include streaming revenue from FoxSports Southwest, Bally, or Victory+. I've no idea what kind of revenue was generated for UIL from online streaming, but I do know how many pairs of eyeballs watched games on Victory+: 2.1 million. (source: https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/football/2025/12/23/texas-high-school-football-state-championships-eclipse-2-million-viewers-on-victory/) And in 2023, Bally had 250k, so what, 8x increase in online viewership in three years?

That to me is a pretty compelling argument that NFHS streaming games, along with local school districts, that revenue should be counted in game fees for officials, since schools charge for access as does the NFHS streaming service.

Just food for thought.




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National Federation Discussion / Re: SANTA'S WISH LIST....2026 version
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on March 05, 2026, 12:19:24 PM »

Thanks Al, that was very abstract.   ???

Allow me to try again; YOU (alone) have a decision to make, based on what YOU (alone) have observed. Or did you consider the contact (YOU) observed excessive, dangerous, deliberate, intentional, intended to be otherwise harmful or excessive, or was it incidental to the action and DID NOT cause UNREASONABLE/EXCESSIVE risk, harm, or threat, to the intended defender. iT'S your DECISION, BASED ON YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE RULE & OBSERVATION. 
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Batting/Fumble/EZ question
« Last post by Kalle on March 05, 2026, 09:55:44 AM »
But it would be fine on a 3rd down? That' the logic I don't understand here.

There is no special rule for a team A recovery on a 3rd down so I can see the logic, even though I'm in the camp of team A TD.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Batting/Fumble/EZ question
« Last post by dammitbobby on March 05, 2026, 09:52:52 AM »
I believe Shaw thinks that awarding a touchdown would be too good a result for team A after they have fumbled on the fourth down.

But it would be fine on a 3rd down? That' the logic I don't understand here.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: SANTA'S WISH LIST....2026 version
« Last post by GA Umpire on March 05, 2026, 12:31:47 AM »
IMHO, a stiff-arm by a ball carrier to a defender's helmet when he is trying to make the tackle, isn't a foul.

 :thumbup
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Basketball / Re: MO Girls BB game being resumed in 3q after scoring mistake
« Last post by GA Umpire on March 05, 2026, 12:29:44 AM »
I'm not a basketball ref but this seems pretty wild:

Missouri Girls Basketball playoff game is being resumed with :54 to go in the 3Q after a scoring mistake was made and subsequently a procedural error occurred which caused a misapplication of rules.

https://x.com/BobGreenburg/status/2029174818772267514
Must be something in the water.

https://www.scoreatl.com/stories/breaking---blatant-clock-starting-error-at-monroe-proves-costly-for-cherokee-bluff-girls

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NCAA Discussion / Re: Batting/Fumble/EZ question
« Last post by Kalle on March 05, 2026, 12:12:19 AM »
AR 8-5-1 XI,  why is this not a touchdown?

I believe Shaw thinks that awarding a touchdown would be too good a result for team A after they have fumbled on the fourth down.
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