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Title: Shutdown on punt
Post by: scamp84 on September 07, 2021, 07:20:52 PM
Question regarding "shutdown" on a punt in HS.  If it doesn't occur on every scrimmage kick situation and the coach pulls it out of his bag of tricks and does it in the fourth quarter, is it a penalty if it draws B offsides?  I am reading 7.1.7b and feel that it is an act to get B to encroach.  Thoughts????
Title: Re: Shutdown on punt
Post by: GA Umpire on September 07, 2021, 09:42:39 PM
Question regarding "shutdown" on a punt in HS.  If it doesn't occur on every scrimmage kick situation and the coach pulls it out of his bag of tricks and does it in the fourth quarter, is it a penalty if it draws B offsides?  I am reading 7.1.7b and feel that it is an act to get B to encroach.  Thoughts????
GA says it is a false start whenever it is observed.
Title: Re: Shutdown on punt
Post by: bossman72 on September 08, 2021, 08:48:08 AM
False start.  Never heard it called "shut down" before.  I'm guessing this is when they go quickly into a stance to get the defense to jump.  You can get away with a warning if the defense doesn't fall for it.

BS detector should go up if it's 4th and less than 5 too.
Title: Re: Shutdown on punt
Post by: bama_stripes on September 16, 2021, 06:45:01 AM
I think OP meant “snapdown”, which is what it’s called around here.  We don’t allow it either, and consider it an act designed strictly to cause the defense to encroach.

See CB 7.1.7 SIT B
Title: Re: Shutdown on punt
Post by: ilyazhito on September 16, 2021, 09:26:35 AM
Is there a video example of this tactic? It would be more helpful to see what we actually have to look for.
Title: Re: Shutdown on punt
Post by: HLinNC on September 16, 2021, 11:13:04 AM
And the defense got flagged for Encroachment, which is what commonly happens.

https://vimeo.com/600528337
Title: Re: Shutdown on punt
Post by: dammitbobby on September 16, 2021, 12:36:07 PM
Some related conversation and observations here, regarding snapdowns.  (I remembered this discussion from earlier)

http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=15432.msg156961#msg156961