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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: tow on August 03, 2011, 05:46:21 PM
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On passing plays with a more than one step drop,we have the R rule if it was forward or backwards pass. On plays at line or a one step drop,wings rule. Had and play where it was deep drop,and throw goes to far right sideline,with a right handed QB, R is lined up on throwing arm side. In order to see the direction of pass R has to look away briefly from QB to rule forward or backward,when R checks back to QB,contact going on but don't know if it is roughing or not,didn't see start of contact. How do others handle this situation? Thanks
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Unless you see the entire play, it's not roughing. But, I don't see how a quick glance at the pass would prevent the R from making the call. You just have to do what you can do.
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If a defender is that close you have to defer to the wing official. You must take care of the QB, especially is contact is that close.
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Better to default to "forward pass" than to default to "no call on the roughing". The safty call is bigger than the forward/backward call. If necessary get help on the pass. If no help is available, forward pass, incomplete if dropped.
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If no help is available, forward pass, incomplete if dropped.
And if caught, your ruling of forward or backward is meaningless to everyone except the Official Scorer.
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And if caught, your ruling of forward or backward is meaningless to everyone except the Official Scorer.
Official Scorers. - pfft
Who cares about them, really?
;)
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The Canadian mechanic, which may be of use here, is that the sides have a significant role to play, here. If it's close, we'd rather a few seconds of no-call/no whistle, than an inadvertant.
It depends greatly on the crew size, however. On seven-man, the R will line on the Q's throwing arm.
Otherwise, the R lines up on wide side (generally). On our four- and five-man crews, the wide-side official remains locked to the LOS until the ball crosses the LOS, and he/she is to rule onscreen attempts behind/over LOS, and suchlike. That individual may be able to assist the R on ruling a forward pass/loose ball.
This instance shows why it's important for the R to have a reasonable cushion. The further back the R is, the more the R sees.
I've been taught that in order to rule on those close-call passes in those situations, the R should move forward, so as to better get a sense of the line between origin of pass and termination point. To me, this does not necessarily prevent protecting the Q.
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Official Scorers. - pfft
Who cares about them, really?
;)
Well, I do agree that the on field officials SHOULDN'T care.
But believe me, that is one call from which I get grief from the press, the QB coach, and often, the QB's mother!
And I don't really care what any of them think!
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But believe me, that is one call from which I get grief from the press, the QB coach, and often, the QB's mother!
If the QB's mother is a MILF, it's always forward! pHiNzuP
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If the QB's mother is a MILF, it's always forward! pHiNzuP
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