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dammitbobby:
Somewhat surprised this hasn't been brought up here yet... SOC vs PNG.

https://www.12newsnow.com/article/sports/high-school/hs-football/south-oak-cliff-state-chamionship-grievance-uil/287-45a42cdf-e7f5-4503-a336-75e17e753aea?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_12NewsNow&fbclid=IwAR0BwGNP41X40sMwzMGt_woC-djjh5BNdBYQWRD91YLMCXhBDTuyGKi0VtE

What the article doesn't mention, is WHY they might be filing a grievance (if that's even possible?  I don't know.) It has nothing to do with the call (there's the video of the call, which makes it look like a bad call, until you see the screenshot from as-yet-unreleased video that clearly shows a grab and restrict/slingshot).  While this was a Houston crew, one of the crew members actually resides in the town of Port Neches, and that was not disclosed to the SOC coach, who in a video interview, said he absolutely wouldn't have used them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9FWG07qcM0

(what's really wild, around 1:28 mark, is that he said he wants officials who consistently call games with inner city black kids, who 'can get really physical and know how to handle them.') Which is a conversation in and of itself.

back to the game though, while not a conflict with TASO policy, IMO there is a valid perception problem with an official being from the same town as one of the teams, and not disclosing it. (And I'm not talking about an entire crew, such as if Canyon made the championship and both coaches agreed to an Amarillo crew (unlikely, but possible) - in that case it's obvious where the crew is from.

And I can't fault the crew for not saying something - they're within the lines of the conflict policy, and who in their right mind would willingly give up a championship game assignment? But someone outside the crew knew... and then someone (coach or official, no idea who has access) took a screenshot of the official's information, blacked out his address except for the town, and shared it on social media, where, I think it's entirely reasonable to assume, he has been harassed and most likely threatened (and he wasn't even the official on the DPI call!) And even a few Texas coaches were getting on the bandwagon, with one even sayin 'they need to find that guy'. 

TASO isn't known for transparency on anything, but it will be interesting to see if this sparks any changes around the conflict of interest policy, and any changes for dealing with coaches and schools who publicly advocate for intimidation or incitement of violence against officials - IMO TASO should scratch the school indefinitely, otherwise tolerance is viewed as acceptance and permission.

I know there's a lot to unpack here but love to hear some more thoughts on any of these storylines.

Covid 22:
The coach is full of "something."   There are legitimate reasons for some crews (even outstanding crews) to not be considered for games at this level.   A crew that calls mostly 6-man wouldn't be a good choice for this level.   A West Texas crew that that called 10 games with a total of 5 passes combined might not be the right crew.    But to say an exceptional crew from San Antonio, Waco, Central Texas or anywhere in Texas should not be chosen because they don't call games with inner city "kids" is stupid.   He approved of this crew and he had every right to ask if anyone in the crew lived in PNG, Waco , San Antonio or Louisiana (or anywhere else he thought might actually be against inner city players).   His comments are inappropriate and unsportsmanlike.

The Houston chapter and the R should also not have accepted the game.   This crew had obviously called other state championship games.  With the knowledge that one member of the crew lived in PNG, it presents the perception of a possible conflict.   At the least, the R should have replaced this official (which we all know that Houston has at least 100 more that are more than qualified to fill-in).     

It is a shame that this is even a "thing" but Deion S brings a lot of this into inner city coaches.

ElvisLives:

--- Quote from: dammitbobby on December 21, 2023, 12:21:24 PM ---one of the crew members actually resides in the town of Port Neches, and that was not disclosed to the SOC coach, who in a video interview, said he absolutely wouldn't have used them.

--- End quote ---

If he'd won, he wouldn't care.
We simply have to get the institutions out of the official selection process. 

Ralph Damren:
THE PROBLEM WITH WORKING A GAME INVOLVING A SCHOOL YOU HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH :

If you make a bad call in favor of that school = you're a HOMER  pi1eOn  >:( hEaDbAnG  :puke:

If you make a bad call in favor of the opponents = you're a VILLIAN  pi1eOn >:( hEaDbAnG :puke:

YOU CAN'T WIN EITHER WAY, DON'T WORK JUST WATCH tR:oLl

AlUpstateNY:

--- Quote from: Ralph Damren on December 22, 2023, 06:39:20 AM ---THE PROBLEM WITH WORKING A GAME INVOLVING A SCHOOL YOU HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH :

If you make a bad call in favor of that school = you're a HOMER  pi1eOn  >:( hEaDbAnG  :puke:

If you make a bad call in favor of the opponents = you're a VILLIAN  pi1eOn >:( hEaDbAnG :puke:

YOU CAN'T WIN EITHER WAY, DON'T WORK JUST WATCH tR:oLl

--- End quote ---

Makes you wonder, why recently do we allow one, really stupid, voice to so often silence the majority of (hopefully) rational voices?  Is there any logic to the notion that any/every Official, who may happen to reside in an area, who's School makes it to a Playoff/Championship level would automatically abandon a career of impartial excellence, that EARNED them a Playoff/Championship assignment.

Such complaints/ suspicions/ unsubstantiated warnings say FAR MORE about the character (or lack thereof), of the complainer, than the target of the complaint.

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