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One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« on: June 04, 2026, 04:47:44 PM »
AR 2-16-11-III does make it clear that the fair catch team may NOT elect to put the ball in play by snap, then change their mind after the ball is ready for play. After the ball is ready for play for first down, they are locked in to playing a scrimmage series.

(In NFHS, they can change to a FCK after a foul by either team - pre-snap or live ball - when first down is continued/repeated. Glad the NCAA nixed that option.)

But, still don’t know what to do about the kicker getting blocked before he has advanced 5-yards, or ball has touched the ground or a player/official. I hope they figure out that they need to give the kicker this protection on FCKs, and then treat the rest of the down as a scrimmage kick.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2026, 06:47:07 AM »
In any video of this rare play, the kicker isn't interested in coverage just is his kick  ^good or  ^no. IMHO, worrying about the kicker's protection on a FC>FK is like us worrying about Halley's Comet leaving it's orbit and crashing on a football field in West Texas  ;D.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2026, 08:13:32 AM »
In any video of this rare play, the kicker isn't interested in coverage just is his kick  ^good or  ^no. IMHO, worrying about the kicker's protection on a FC>FK is like us worrying about Halley's Comet leaving it's orbit and crashing on a football field in West Texas  ;D.

Well, people said that it is highly unlikely that somebody would jump up over the sideline, control a forward pass while airborne, throw the ball to a teammate, and then land out of bounds... :)

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2026, 09:15:39 AM »
In any video of this rare play, the kicker isn't interested in coverage just is his kick  ^good or  ^no. IMHO, worrying about the kicker's protection on a FC>FK is like us worrying about Halley's Comet leaving it's orbit and crashing on a football field in West Texas  ;D.

Coincidentally enough, Halley’s core is roughly the same size and shape as my West Texas home town.
Nobody expected the kicker to be targeted for injury before 2010, either. But, obviously such a dastardly deed had happened, so a rule was created. If some coach figures out that the kicker isn’t protected during a fair catch kick - the one time it happens in everybody’s career - he’ll take the opportunity to take the kicker out.
Yes, the ball should be treated as a scrimmage kick, but the players need to be treated like a free kick. Easy enough to fix, if the powers that be will just think things through.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2026, 11:20:18 AM »
In any video of this rare play, the kicker isn't interested in coverage just is his kick  ^good or  ^no. IMHO, worrying about the kicker's protection on a FC>FK is like us worrying about Halley's Comet leaving it's orbit and crashing on a football field in West Texas  ;D.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2026, 09:19:15 AM »
In recent days I have learned from a highly reliable source (not directly from Shaw, but one in direct communication with Shaw) some things about the FCK that clears up virtually all of my questions.
1. The current FCK rule language says, “…if the FCK is unsuccessful, all rules pertaining to a scrimmage kick apply.,” which makes it sound like scrimmage kick rules don’t apply until the FCK scoring attempt becomes, officially, unsuccessful.  However, the word I now have is that once the ball is kicked, the down becomes a scrimmage kick, in all respects.
2. Because it is a scrimmage kick, the kicker does NOT have the protection afforded to him with a free kick (6-1-9).
3. Because it is a scrimmage kick, ‘wedge blocking’ is allowed (unlike with a free kick - 6-1-10).
4. If, by some miracle, the kick is made from inside B’s 10-yard line, yes, B’s restraining line would still be 10 yards beyond, in B’s end zone.

Yes, that makes it simpler and easier for us. It leaves the kicker exposed to injury, but that’s not my concern, anymore, if the rules makers weren’t smart enough to keep him protected. A personal foul on the kicker does become a PSK foul, though.

So, the one time you see this in 20, 30, 40 years, you know what to do (although something will probably change in that time).


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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2026, 10:12:50 AM »
Isn't wedge blocking considered a safety foul? Seems pretty bonkers that they left that on the table to be legal.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2026, 11:58:06 AM »
Isn't wedge blocking considered a safety foul? Seems pretty bonkers that they left that on the table to be legal.

I don’t think these were conscious, deliberate decisions. The rule just wasn’t vetted well. I don’t think wedge blocking will be much of an issue. We don’t see wedge blocking much these days, since it is prohibited on free kicks. If we don’t tell the teams and coaches about this, they won’t know it is allowed on Fair Catch Kicks.
The kicker protection is more likely to be a problem. We still have general personal foul rules to protect him, but, he may be blocked before he moves five yards downfield.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2026, 12:07:08 PM »
My guess is, everyone on B's restraining line will turn and watch to see if the kick is good or not, so kicker protection may be not be a problematic thing after all. :)

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2026, 02:04:17 PM »
My guess is, everyone on B's restraining line will turn and watch to see if the kick is good or not, so kicker protection may be not be a problematic thing after all. :)

If they are smart, yes. There is, literally, nothing Team B can do to prevent a good kick from scoring. Nothing. So, they can only hope that the kick is bad, and, unless time has expired in the game, just stay out of the way, and don't engage Team A, at all. If there is time remaining, they'll get the ball at the previous spot or B-20. Yeah, if time has expired for the 4th period, and they are tied, and want to risk a runback before they go to extra periods, well, OK. Still not smart, IMHO. If Team A is ahead in score and wants to try a FCK, they are just stupid. Or, they might be trying to let some kicker get some sort of record. Better be up by more than 8 points.

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2026, 09:42:50 PM »
Just tell me what you guys end up doing when you see a fair catch kick in a game.  :)

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Re: One thing about a Fair Catch Kick
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2026, 09:45:31 PM »
Just tell me what you guys end up doing when you see a fair catch kick in a game.  :)

Believe me, we’ll get video. 😂