Enforcement Spot, are there options for R

[UMPIRE67]

4/10 @ A-5. A21’s punt is blocked. A21 bats the loose ball out of the end zone, in to the field of play where it rolls out of bounds at the A-6.

[Fatso]

4/10 @ A-5. A21’s punt is blocked. A21 bats the loose ball out of the end zone, in to the field of play where it rolls out of bounds at the A-6.

Accept penalty = safety
Decline penalty = 1st and G for R at the A-6.

I think......

[UMPIRE67]

Our question- does R have option of taking at the succeeding spot since K fouled on 4th down ( 4th down kick rule exception).

Situational for team of course

most likely the will take safety and get the ball back by free kick...

[Ralph Damren]

4/10 @ A-5. A21’s punt is blocked. A21 bats the loose ball out of the end zone, in to the field of play where it rolls out of bounds at the A-6.

Let's tweak that to : 3/10 @ A's5. Kick is blocked back into EZ. Hans, the punter, soccer instincts return and he kicks the bouncing ball out of the air from the EZ. IK goes sailing OOB @ K's 6.

                                            YOU MAKE THE CALL....

[NVFOA_Ump]

Let's tweak that to : 3/10 @ A's5. Kick is blocked back into EZ. Hans, the punter, soccer instincts return and he kicks the bouncing ball out of the air from the EZ. IK goes sailing OOB @ K's 6.

In order of the R's most likely selection.


1.  IK in the EZ - Safety to be followed by a free kick
2.  Kick OB beyond the previous spot - penalty declined and 1st & 10 for R at K's 6


Order may get reversed depending on time remaining and the score.

[BetweenTheLines]

Let's tweak that to : 3/10 @ A's5. Kick is blocked back into EZ. Hans, the punter, soccer instincts return and he kicks the bouncing ball out of the air from the EZ. IK goes sailing OOB @ K's 6.

                                            YOU MAKE THE CALL....

Kick or Bat it doesn't matter. 10-4-2 exception, 1st & goal at the 3 or safety.

[KDJBBBJ]

Kick or Bat it doesn't matter. 10-4-2 exception, 1st & goal at the 3 or safety.

10-4-2 exception is for a legal kick, not an illegal one.

[BetweenTheLines]

10-4-2 exception is for a legal kick, not an illegal one.

What was the status of the ball before it was kicked illegally?

[CalhounLJ]

Our question- does R have option of taking at the succeeding spot since K fouled on 4th down ( 4th down kick rule exception).

Situational for team of course

most likely the will take safety and get the ball back by free kick...

To answer this question - yes. R can take the result of the play (their ball at the 6), and then "tack on" the K penalty during a legal kick (10-4-2 exception.) Their ball on the B3. One note - 4th down doesn't matter. a legal kick out of bounds belongs to R no matter what down it's on.

it may be a good option for R, especially if it's late and they are behind more than 2. they may want the ball and the opportunity to score the Td or even kick a field goal. As the others said, doesn't matter if it's illegal kicking or batting, K has either kicked a "kick" or batted a "kick."

[Ralph Damren]

Good job, guys, with the tack-on placing the ball @ B's 3 it's sorta' like A now has 4 chances to score from PAT land. As Calhoun pointed out, there is a choice to be made and that should be made after full explaination to R's coach.

[BetweenTheLines]

Unfortunately we had this exact play happen here in SC a few years back in a playoff game. K's punt was blocked in EZ and the punter kicked the rolling ball out of the EZ and it went out of bounds inside the 10. R was never given the option to have the ball half the distance from the succeeding spot. They had to take the safety. They ended up losing the game by 3.

[NVFOA_Ump]

Unfortunately we had this exact play happen here in SC a few years back in a playoff game. K's punt was blocked in EZ and the punter kicked the rolling ball out of the EZ and it went out of bounds inside the 10. R was never given the option to have the ball half the distance from the succeeding spot. They had to take the safety. They ended up losing the game by 3.

"They had to take the safety." - They weren't even offered the option of declining all penalties and taking the ball at the out-of-bounds spot 1st and goal?