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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: sczeebra on August 15, 2019, 07:58:29 PM
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Had some discussion with these fouls with regard to the progression of enforcement. Example: In the first quarter the official on A's sideline makes contact, (9-4-8), with an A coach in the restricted zone. Then later in the second period, A is flagged for being in the restricted zone (no contact 9-8-3). We have ruled here in SC that his warning has been given in effect after the 9-4-8 instance, therefore, A is penalized 5 yards. If there is either a 9-4-8 violation or a 9-8-3 the coach is ejected. What do you think?
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That is not the enforcement in NC.
The sideline warnings go 0 yard, 5 yard, 15 yard.
Sideline interference is 15 yards every time, second offense is coach ejection.
These are separate penalties with separate stacking enforcements, although you can mix and match the 2 15 yarders for ejection purposes.
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although you can mix and match the 2 15 yarders for ejection purposes.
I don't think you can. Like you said before, they are separate entities. Unintentional contact with a game official is a "personal foul" charged to the head coach, not a UNS.
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I don't think you can. Like you said before, they are separate entities. Unintentional contact with a game official is a "personal foul" charged to the head coach, not a UNS.
Yeah, that's right -- I know the sideline contact and a "garden variety" UNS don't stack, but a third sideline warning is UNS and would stack with any other UNS, but not the sideline contact.
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NCwingman is right that Bossman is right. They are considered separate.
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Ralph is right that NC is Right that Bossman is right.
Geez, I'm ready for the season to start.. ;D
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Geez, I'm ready for the season to start.. ;D
Last scrimmage tonight. Week 1 is next Friday, well Thursday if you count JV. Some NC private schools are starting tonight.
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So let me revisit: In the first quarter there is a violation, contact in the restricted zone 9-4-8 against A, a 15-yard penalty. Later in the period there is a violation against A with no contact, 9-8-3, 1st offense a sideline warning. Then in the second period another violation against A, 9-8-3 no contact we assess a 5-yard penalty. Then A commits its third violation of rule 9-8-3 this is now a 15-yard unsportsmanlike A's first, no ejection because the violation in the first quarter of rule 9-4-8 is not considered unsportsmanlike.
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9-4- Art. 8 – Unintentional contact with a game official in the restricted area – (S38-29) – 15 yards – Nonplayer foul. For the first offense, 15 yards from the succeeding spot. For the second offense (S38-29-47) – 15 yards from the succeeding spot and disqualification of the head coach.
9-8-Arts., 3 – Nonplayer foul – First offense – (S15) – warning, Second offense – (S7-29) – 5 yards, Each subsequent offense – (S7-29-27) – 15 yards;
9-4-8 involves contact, 9-8-3 does not. Different rules, different fouls, different penalties. They don't mix.
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So let me revisit: In the first quarter there is a violation, contact in the restricted zone 9-4-8 against A, a 15-yard penalty. Later in the period there is a violation against A with no contact, 9-8-3, 1st offense a sideline warning. Then in the second period another violation against A, 9-8-3 no contact we assess a 5-yard penalty. Then A commits its third violation of rule 9-8-3 this is now a 15-yard unsportsmanlike A's first, no ejection because the violation in the first quarter of rule 9-4-8 is not considered unsportsmanlike.
This is correct. They each have their own "buckets" and you can't mix them.
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Team A scores a TD on a long run, during the play, an assistant coach makes contact with the SJ in the restricted area. What is the administration?
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15yd None-player foul. TD stands. B can have penalty enforced on try or subsequent Kickoff
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