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Offline NorCalMike

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #25 on: November 11, 2011, 04:13:54 PM »
Just wondering, if you know or can find out, how many total public school playoff games are there in California each year?
Those numbers include private schools. There is no way to differentiate them as the all play in the same leagues. Probably about 10% of the schools are private.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2011, 04:15:40 PM »
Since CA has around 37M people compared to 25M in Texas, this should not be that surprising.
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12% of the country's population but 25% of the country's welfare payouts. (Oops, sorry for the political commentary).

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2011, 04:22:28 PM »
Football is getting bigger every year here. A lot of our local teams (Sacramento Area) are playing out of state now.They are doing quite well. I would love to see how we stack up against Texas teams but the rules thing would be a problem.

Texas schools play Oklahoma, LoserINiana and Florida schools now. They deal with the rule differences usually by using rules of home school. 

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2011, 06:31:20 PM »
Texas schools play Oklahoma, LoserINiana and Florida schools now. They deal with the rule differences usually by using rules of home school.
Hopefully we will see some California/Texas games someday then.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2011, 09:25:09 PM »


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This system sounds a whole lot like the BCS~ highly political!   z^

Perhaps but the sectional champions are usually considered the actual ones.  The State Bowl gig is a newer thing.  And at least California has the good sense not to let the inmates run the asylum...I mean let coaches pick their own crews!

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2011, 08:37:22 AM »
Perhaps but the sectional champions are usually considered the actual ones.  The State Bowl gig is a newer thing.  And at least California has the good sense not to let the inmates run the asylum...I mean let coaches pick their own crews!


 ^flag

Then just who does undertake that rigorous assignment out there? The Sectional Chiefs? The Educational Sector? A College-Type Commissioner? Who? No matter who ends up running the "asylum," albeit Commissioners, Coaches, or Whoever, I'm afraid that the politics is always going to be there! In my 33 years of football officiating experience, I'd much rather have a collective group of coaches running things than I would to be beheld to just one assignment commissar, if you will!   z^

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2011, 03:23:09 PM »
The teams are selected by the Section Commissioners. Not really sure how the select the teams. Usually each game has one team from Southern California and one Team from NorCal.

As far as selected officials for playoffs, our association works with the assigner to set up the crews and there is definitely politics involved.

Officials for the state games are selected by CIF by an application process. Minimum requirements are 10 years as an official and worked a section championship game. The 25 slots are spread over the ten sections.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2011, 07:50:07 PM »
Thanks to TexDoc for once again doing the playoff assignment spreadsheet.  I doubt there is another state with as many playoff games as we have in Texas.  Doc does a great job pulling it all together for us zebras!!   tiphat:   tiphat:   tiphat:

If you notice any errors or holes you can fill, let us know!

http://www.safootballchapter.us/2011TRNY.xls
Doc has updated the sheet for week 2.  Looks like 2 games are still available if someone wants to work them

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2011, 08:22:36 AM »
SA chapter...6 gms round 2 good gracious. Guess i should move to Hou or Lubbock.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2011, 08:27:20 AM »
They are saving you for the more important later round games      :sTiR:

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2011, 09:10:39 AM »
since I have been doing this, 2003, this is the lowest game total SA has had in the second round.  It has a lot to do with realignment, but for some reason we are not getting the valley games like we used to.  Kind of frustrating, but that's how the ball bounces.  Hopefully it picks up in round 3.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2011, 09:13:32 AM »
You're prob right, Mike. Mr. Timm-ah        is saving my knees for that game in a few weeks in Jerry World.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2011, 05:57:25 PM »
Dallas' assignment sheet doesn't reflect Lovelady-Alto in 1A-1.

How did SA lose Warren/Churchill to Dallas?  It's never good to lose games between your schools.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2011, 10:44:38 AM »
It happens although i do find it odd.

Aledo v Mansfield Summit went to Tyler for some reason.

Who knows  ???


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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2011, 10:55:58 AM »
Dallas' assignment sheet doesn't reflect Lovelady-Alto in 1A-1.

How did SA lose Warren/Churchill to Dallas?  It's never good to lose games between your schools.

You are correct.  Alto went to SFA Chapter.

Not sure how SA lost that game but I suspect one coach may have been unhappy with a call or two.  Who knows.  Coaches can be quite paranoid.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2011, 05:39:20 AM »
I know if it was going to be Wagner vs Warren it was coming to Houston.  They had already called in.  Wagner lost though.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2011, 12:17:43 PM »
TexDoc,
You didn't happen to have the Hebron/Guyer game last week at Jerry's World last week.  There was some rumblings about a 4th down spot late in the game.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #42 on: November 18, 2011, 12:43:38 PM »
TexDoc,
You didn't happen to have the Hebron/Guyer game last week at Jerry's World last week.  There was some rumblings about a 4th down spot late in the game.

No sir, I was in Groesbeck, Texas, home of the Goats, for a 2A game!  I heard a couple of things about that game but not sure about any of it.  Would like to see video.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #43 on: November 18, 2011, 12:46:18 PM »
I also heard things.  Just curious about the real story (or at least the officials' one).

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2011, 10:00:20 AM »
I had the game. I would be happy to entertain the masses.
What have we heard ?
As far as the spot, knee down position of the ball at that time. The runner reached out as he was going down.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2011, 11:07:27 AM »
That is probably the play.  The comment came from a civilian, that's why I asked.  They probably just saw the ball reach out after the knee.

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2011, 11:16:43 AM »
No love for Dallas this week (#3).  Got just 2 games and none at 3A and above including the one game that was Dallas/Dallas (Sherman/Rockwall-Heath).

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2011, 11:39:25 AM »
Maybe if you guys would start wearing placards, you'd get some games.    ;D

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #48 on: November 23, 2011, 12:10:22 PM »
Has the spreadsheet been updated yet? :)

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Re: 2011 Playoffs
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2011, 12:15:27 PM »
I had the game. I would be happy to entertain the masses.
What have we heard ?
As far as the spot, knee down position of the ball at that time. The runner reached out as he was going down.

just saw the box score...19 penalties for 130 yards by 1 team ??  ??    Sounds like a ton of 5 yarders.  What were they doing?