Author Topic: Shutdown on punt  (Read 1447 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline scamp84

  • *
  • Posts: 2
  • FAN REACTION: +0/-0
  • Without officials... it is only recess.
Shutdown on punt
« on: September 07, 2021, 07:20:52 PM »
Question regarding "shutdown" on a punt in HS.  If it doesn't occur on every scrimmage kick situation and the coach pulls it out of his bag of tricks and does it in the fourth quarter, is it a penalty if it draws B offsides?  I am reading 7.1.7b and feel that it is an act to get B to encroach.  Thoughts????

Online GA Umpire

  • Refstripes Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 346
  • FAN REACTION: +30/-3
Re: Shutdown on punt
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2021, 09:42:39 PM »
Question regarding "shutdown" on a punt in HS.  If it doesn't occur on every scrimmage kick situation and the coach pulls it out of his bag of tricks and does it in the fourth quarter, is it a penalty if it draws B offsides?  I am reading 7.1.7b and feel that it is an act to get B to encroach.  Thoughts????
GA says it is a false start whenever it is observed.

Offline bossman72

  • *
  • Posts: 2119
  • FAN REACTION: +301/-25
Re: Shutdown on punt
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2021, 08:48:08 AM »
False start.  Never heard it called "shut down" before.  I'm guessing this is when they go quickly into a stance to get the defense to jump.  You can get away with a warning if the defense doesn't fall for it.

BS detector should go up if it's 4th and less than 5 too.

Offline bama_stripes

  • *
  • Posts: 2940
  • FAN REACTION: +115/-27
Re: Shutdown on punt
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2021, 06:45:01 AM »
I think OP meant “snapdown”, which is what it’s called around here.  We don’t allow it either, and consider it an act designed strictly to cause the defense to encroach.

See CB 7.1.7 SIT B

Offline ilyazhito

  • *
  • Posts: 366
  • FAN REACTION: +11/-13
  • Without officials... it is only recess.
Re: Shutdown on punt
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2021, 09:26:35 AM »
Is there a video example of this tactic? It would be more helpful to see what we actually have to look for.

Offline HLinNC

  • *
  • Posts: 3491
  • FAN REACTION: +133/-24
Re: Shutdown on punt
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2021, 11:13:04 AM »
And the defense got flagged for Encroachment, which is what commonly happens.

« Last Edit: September 16, 2021, 11:14:56 AM by HLinNC »

Offline dammitbobby

  • *
  • Posts: 1181
  • FAN REACTION: +27/-8
  • I know just enough to be dangerous...
Re: Shutdown on punt
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2021, 12:36:07 PM »
Some related conversation and observations here, regarding snapdowns.  (I remembered this discussion from earlier)

http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=15432.msg156961#msg156961