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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: ohguy on September 24, 2013, 10:07:31 AM

Title: Legal in high school?
Post by: ohguy on September 24, 2013, 10:07:31 AM: http://bustedcoverage.com/2013/09/23/JERK-eastern-kentucky-punter-pulled-off-this-rugby-punt-pass-video/
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: scrounge on September 24, 2013, 10:14:37 AM: Don't see why not...you've got a scrimmage kick recovered behind the neutral zone. K is free to advance it.
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: maven on September 24, 2013, 10:20:27 AM: Quote from: scrounge on September 24, 2013, 10:14:37 AM
Don't see why not...you've got a scrimmage kick recovered behind the neutral zone. K is free to advance it.

He caught it. Watch for KCI.

The R player nearby was blocked away from the "receiver" to prevent a KCI flag. Coach thought of everything. ;)
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Curious on September 24, 2013, 10:22:44 AM: Seems legal at the HS level to me.

I'm going to put this one in my "trick book" along with the backward pass behind the LOS to and ineligible numbered A player (it's a very short book).

AB...have you tried this yet? LOL
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Ted T on September 24, 2013, 10:34:09 AM: Did anyone notice the receiver's proximity to the LOS when he came down with the ball? Very close to being beyond the line. If he is beyond the line, it just becomes a very short punt downed by K.
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Atlanta Blue on September 24, 2013, 10:50:32 AM: Quote from: Curious on September 24, 2013, 10:22:44 AM
AB...have you tried this yet? LOL

No, and never will.

1. Even a poor passer can pass more accurately than a punt.
2. Look how high this receiver has to go to catch the ball.
3. Look how close to the LOS the receiver is when he catches it.

If either #2 or #3 change by just a little, this turns into a REALLY BAD punt. Why bother? Just have the kicker throw the ball over there.
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Curious on September 24, 2013, 10:52:36 AM: Quote from: Ted T on September 24, 2013, 10:34:09 AM
Did anyone notice the receiver's proximity to the LOS when he came down with the ball? Very close to being beyond the line. If he is beyond the line, it just becomes a very short punt downed by K.

It is close; but like Maven says above; if the kick (not the player - my ed) is beyond the LOS it would not only be "downed", it could also be KCI if there were an R player in position to catch the kick.
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: maven on September 24, 2013, 11:37:53 AM: Play is also being discussed in the NCAA section:
http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=10385.0
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Mad Mike on September 24, 2013, 12:05:59 PM: In order to have KCI, doesn't the ball have to be beyond the neutral zone?
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Curious on September 24, 2013, 12:30:35 PM: Quote from: Mad Mike on September 24, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
In order to have KCI, doesn't the ball have to be beyond the neutral zone?

That's what we said.....
Title: Re: Legal in high school?
Post by: Ted T on September 26, 2013, 08:39:39 PM: Quote from: Mad Mike on September 24, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
In order to have KCI, doesn't the ball have to be beyond the neutral zone?

Yep, and there has to be a receiver in position to catch the ball (on a scrimmage kick).