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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: BBref on August 17, 2014, 11:44:25 AM
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NFHS 2011 Rule 8-3-6 If during an unsuccessful try ... B fouls, the down is replayed after enforcement.
2012 and 2013 Rule 8-3-6b If during an unsuccessful try ... a foul by B/R occurs ...the offended captain shall then choose to replay the down after enforcement or to decline the distance penalty ... and replay the down from the previous spot.
2014 Rule 8-3-6b If during an unsuccessful try .. a foul by B/R occurs ... the down is replayed after enforcement.
Significance: 2-point try, QB is tackled by the facemask at the B10. In 2012 and 2013, he could elect to replay the down from the 3. In 2011 and 2014, the only option is to enforce the penalty from the end of the run to the B5 and replay the down from there.
Any thoughts on the thinking here. Did the rules editor introduce an unplanned change in 2012? Or did the committee change its mind about the change and revert to the old rule?
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The 2014 version of NFHS 8-3-6-b "Afoul by B/R occurs, and the penalty is accepted, the down is replayed after enforcement", simply removes what appears to be excess and redundant verbiage ("or to decline the distance penalty") as that same option continues as part of "Football Fundamentals X1 (Penalty Measurement)
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The 2014 version of NFHS 8-3-6-b "Afoul by B/R occurs, and the penalty is accepted, the down is replayed after enforcement", simply removes what appears to be excess and redundant verbiage ("or to decline the distance penalty") as that same option continues as part of "Football Fundamentals X1 (Penalty Measurement)
That was redundant, it was always an option. Problem was, they changed the rule by removing the previous spot option, without announcing a rule change.
Take the play on question: 2 pt try from the 3. A10 drops back and is tackled by the facemask at the 10 yd line. Enforcing the penalty moves the ball half the distance to the 5, replay the down. Declining the distance portion of the penalty would leave the ball at the 10 and replay the down. There is no longer a provision to move the ball back to the previous spot for the replay.
The previous spot option was an exception to the All but One rule in FED, and applied only to tries. It looks like they no longer want that exception. But this rule came in quietly with no mention of a rule change, and it looks like it went out that way as well.
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That was redundant, it was always an option. Problem was, they changed the rule by removing the previous spot option, without announcing a rule change.
Take the play on question: 2 pt try from the 3. A10 drops back and is tackled by the facemask at the 10 yd line. Enforcing the penalty moves the ball half the distance to the 5, replay the down. [color=blue]Declining the distance portion of the penalty would leave the ball at the 10 and replay the down. There is no longer a provision to move the ball back to the previous spot for the replay.[/color]
What happens if the QB fumbles the ball? :sTiR: The ABO would still require previous spot enforcement, right?
The previous spot option was an exception to the All but One rule in FED, and applied only to tries. It looks like they no longer want that exception. I kind of liked it myself!
But this rule came in quietly with no mention of a rule change, and it looks like it went out that way as well.
Sad but true! pi1eOn