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National Federation Discussion / Re: Momentum Exception?
« Last post by ilyazhito on Today at 08:28:35 PM »
If a player with the ball leaves the end zone after entering through the momentum exception, the exception is lost, because the momentum that carried the ball into the end zone is over. Wouldn't the same thing apply for a forward fumble out of bounds through the field of play, because the ball left the end zone, and the original momentum that put it into the end zone ended?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Momentum Exception?
« Last post by CalhounLJ on Today at 05:23:48 PM »
Well, mo wasnít cancelled because the ball moved forward. It was canceled because it went oob in the field of play. I understand the one couldnít happen without the other, but the distinction is important.


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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 10:54:28 AM »
I've chatted with the Mass. rep, Richard Pearson, both via phone & at Indy. He's an amicable guy and is dedicated to making the transfer work. I'm uneasy with the addition of the 40" clock, but it's OUR new rule and WE will make it work. I was chatting once with a full-time substitute teacher, that dealt with a multitude of subjects. I asked how he could keep up with dealing with a different topic to teach every day. His response was : "I don't need to know everything, just need to know a chapter ahead of my students AND pretend I know everything!"

IMHO, he had a good point :). As your are learning the differences, you will probably always be ahead of the coaches ,who work the X's and O's and let you worry about the rule differences. Good luck, and I'm sure (just like I am about the 40" clock) it will work out.

Have a good weekend, all!!
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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by HLinNC on Today at 09:43:57 AM »
The NFHS is not and really has not been into the rules education nor educational product business.  They leave that up to the individual states' directors/commissioners/supervisors to accomplish as each state is pretty much free to interpret NFHS rules as they deem necessary.

Certainly your state leadership should be able to consult with a neighboring state to guide you along.  I think you'll find that a) NFHS rules aren't that intimidating, b) there are more similarities than you think.  The two biggies are you need to blow encroachment immediately and ABO on the offense.

As for resources, for $35 you can join the NFHS directly and get access to all the publications via the Arbiter online.  There are also downloadable mobile rule and case book apps.  There are a few rules changes that were just released for 2019 so having 2018 material isn't any major problem.  There is a Reddings NFHS guide just like there is one for NCAA.  The videos produced in Hawaii available online are produced by a dual NFHS/NCAA official.

There will be a learning curve but I don't think its as steep as you think.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Momentum Exception?
« Last post by ilyazhito on Today at 09:12:15 AM »
Ok, out of bounds in the field of play would cancel the momentum exception, for the ball somehow went forward.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by riffraft on Today at 08:29:33 AM »


We are being asked to make a change from a set of rules used since at least the mid-1970ís, and officiated by officials for up to 40 years, in effectively less than 7 months. NFHS 2019 rule books are not available until at the earliest May with no definitive date in sight. The MIAA has stated they are trying to secure 2018 rule books (and case books which are separate in NFHS but are one volume in NCAA), but to date, these rule books have only been secured at an extensive cost to local officialís boards. In fact, the MIAA has stated they cannot guarantee that there will be enough rule books for every official in the state.

You can get an electronic version of the 2018 rules and case books for $7 a piece on amazon right this moment. The 2017 Football rule differences: NFHS & NCAA Rules Compared is available. 2018 The Redding study guide to NFHS Football rules is available on Double S Distributors Web site $17.50. I understand you are not happy with the change, but if one of your concern is having the rules available to you, you don't have to be. And you will be happy that the major rule change this year (for which the actual reading of the rule has not been release yet) is going from the 25 second clock to a 40 second play clock. So the 2018 rule book should be more than enough to get you up to speed.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 08:28:11 AM »
In the mammal kingdom, only human babies with soiled diapers want a change. I been in contact with several local officials that have moved to NCAA and they all felt the transmission from NFHS to NCAA was a bigger challenge than originally learning the NFHS rules.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by toma on Today at 08:04:35 AM »
The recent MIAA decision to switch from NCAA to National Federation of High School (NFHS) rules. This decision was made without any input from the MIAA football committee, athletic directors, coaches or officials, the latter two being the major constituent groups relating to high school football in Massachusetts. A similar switch was attempted in the 1990ís, and when both groups vehemently opposed, the MIAA withdrew the proposal. This time around, the MIAA did not consult with any user groups and went right to a vote. A presentation was made to the Tournament Management Committee which voted in favor, it was passed on to the board of directors who voted in favor. It does not appear at any point in the process were the groups directly affected by the rule change asked for any input.

We are being asked to make a change from a set of rules used since at least the mid-1970ís, and officiated by officials for up to 40 years, in effectively less than 7 months. NFHS 2019 rule books are not available until at the earliest May with no definitive date in sight. The MIAA has stated they are trying to secure 2018 rule books (and case books which are separate in NFHS but are one volume in NCAA), but to date, these rule books have only been secured at an extensive cost to local officialís boards. In fact, the MIAA has stated they cannot guarantee that there will be enough rule books for every official in the state. They have also stated the MIAA is trying to get training aids (videos, film, etc.), but to date, nothing but the recent introductory meeting for board leaders and interpreters. These training aids the MIAA references seem to consist of videos produced from YouTube or other state groups, not the NFHS. NFHS rule and case books are available for download via an app or e-book format, but at a cost of $6.99 each. These cannot be reprinted for use by multiple members. NCAA rule books are available free online for download and can be reprinted. This allows for easy dissemination of information. In addition, the CFO (national officiating organization of the NCAA) produces preseason training videos on rules changes, subject videos (pass interference, blocking below the waist, etc.), weekly videos in season, and weekly rules interpretations as well as bi-weekly exams. MIAA football officials are offered a discount rate to join the CFO due to their use of NCAA playing rules. Any official can go to the website and view/download video, regular in season rules interpretations and the like. None of this is available by NFHS. The MIAA has not been able to provide any NFHS training videos other than what can be found on YouTube. Both codes do offer specialty subject manuals. These facts seem to refute the assertion that accessibility and interpretation is better under NFHS.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by scrounge on Today at 07:32:10 AM »
54% said they would be unable to officiate in a safe manner by Sept?  Way overdramatic...
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National Federation Discussion / Re: WELCOME, COMMONWEALTH.......
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on Today at 07:04:49 AM »
Some of us here in southeastern MA have been doing some of our games in RI (NFHS rules) for the last 3-4 years.  No major issues that I'm aware of but the blow-and-throw for team B encroachment is a bit challenging to handle given that under NCAA rules we hold the whistle and let the play go.  We usually end up with the flag and then a delayed whistle after the snap.  We did get better at it as we went along but the long term training is a bit tough to change when you need an "instant" whistle.  I did not see any problems with the blocking below the waist differences or the enforcement of team A penalties where the spot was in the team A backfield.  I will say that the rules differences documents that I've tracked down via this board have been extremely helpful.  We'll see how our preseason training goes.  ::)
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