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Offline Ralph Damren

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The shortest day of the year.....
« on: December 21, 2024, 06:44:52 AM »
Today, December 21st, is labeled as the shortest day of the year as the Winter Solstice. While it has the shortest length of sunlight, it isn't the shortest day....WHAT IS  ??? ???

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2024, 07:15:36 AM »
Today, December 21st, is labeled as the shortest day of the year as the Winter Solstice. While it has the shortest length of sunlight, it isn't the shortest day....WHAT IS  ??? ???

I give you two answers which can both be considered correct - at least in Finland :) September 19th and March 30th.

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2024, 08:05:39 AM »
Today, December 21st, is labeled as the shortest day of the year as the Winter Solstice. While it has the shortest length of sunlight, it isn't the shortest day....WHAT IS  ??? ???

I believe they all have 24 hours....

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2024, 08:22:50 AM »
DST when we spring forward the day is only 23 hours...
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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2024, 08:59:17 AM »
DST when we spring forward the day is only 23 hours...
OhioTom wins  aWaRd. The 2nd Sunday in March springs forward from 2 AM to 3 AM, thus only 23 hours. Conversely , the first Sunday in November is the longest as DST > EST = 25 hours for longest day. Kalle's Finish clock is probably correct, too but would botjh days be only 23 hours  ??? ???

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2024, 04:17:29 AM »
OhioTom wins  aWaRd. The 2nd Sunday in March springs forward from 2 AM to 3 AM, thus only 23 hours. Conversely , the first Sunday in November is the longest as DST > EST = 25 hours for longest day. Kalle's Finish clock is probably correct, too but would botjh days be only 23 hours  ??? ???

This is actually only true if you define a day by the clock, ie. eg. from noon to noon. If you define a day by the time it takes for the sun to return to the same position in the sky the shortest day is in September due to the Earth's speed around the sun not being constant as the orbit is an ellipse and not a circle. This is only a difference of 21 seconds, though.

Also do note that Hawaii and most of Arizona doesn't use DST so in those states only the September answer can be correct :)

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2024, 09:10:19 AM »
Beginning January 1, 2025, the longest and shortest days of the year will be whatever I say they are, for me. That’s called “retirement.” I will no longer be responsible for anybody else’s budget or schedule - only my own. Exciting and frightening at the same time. Free to do whatever I want, in my own time. But, being alone, these days, I realize that I won’t be going to my office and collaborating with the wonderful people there. I’ll have to go to the grocery store more often just to have someone to talk to.
I’ll figure it out. Maybe I’ll get that phone call from my son and daughter-in-law that I’m going to be a grandfather. They live 8 hours away in a place that wouldn’t be my first choice to live, but that phone call would have me selling everything and moving as fast as I could get there. I can think of nothing better than being a full-time professional (but unpaid) grandfather! What a Christmas gift that would be. In the mean time, I’ll keep chatting with you wonderful folks, and trying to get better.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you!❤️

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2024, 07:11:24 AM »
Beginning January 1, 2025, the longest and shortest days of the year will be whatever I say they are, for me. That’s called “retirement.” I will no longer be responsible for anybody else’s budget or schedule - only my own. Exciting and frightening at the same time. Free to do whatever I want, in my own time. But, being alone, these days, I realize that I won’t be going to my office and collaborating with the wonderful people there. I’ll have to go to the grocery store more often just to have someone to talk to.
I’ll figure it out. Maybe I’ll get that phone call from my son and daughter-in-law that I’m going to be a grandfather. They live 8 hours away in a place that wouldn’t be my first choice to live, but that phone call would have me selling everything and moving as fast as I could get there. I can think of nothing better than being a full-time professional (but unpaid) grandfather! What a Christmas gift that would be. In the mean time, I’ll keep chatting with you wonderful folks, and trying to get better.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all of you!❤️
Thank you for the kind words, Elvis :thumbup. Our world of football, to most of us, is a hobby. If we are out on the field, in the stands,  home in front of the TV, or responding to you guys on Refstripes, the worries of the world seem to be pushed to the back-burner. May the day soon come when you will be know as Grandpa Elvis.  yEs:

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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2024, 09:01:50 AM »
Thank you for the kind words, Elvis :thumbup. Our world of football, to most of us, is a hobby. If we are out on the field, in the stands,  home in front of the TV, or responding to you guys on Refstripes, the worries of the world seem to be pushed to the back-burner. May the day soon come when you will be know as Grandpa Elvis.  yEs:

Thank you, Ralph. Titles such as Royal Highness, President, etc., don’t hold a candle to the titles of Dad and Grandpa. As Dad, already, I know. I enviously await the day that I hear that title spoken by my grandchild to me.
I hope you and everyone have the greatest new year ever. Be happy, healthy, and safe.

Robert Cameron
Lubbock, Texas


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Re: The shortest day of the year.....
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2024, 08:02:06 AM »
Thank you, Ralph. Titles such as Royal Highness, President, etc., don’t hold a candle to the titles of Dad and Grandpa. As Dad, already, I know. I enviously await the day that I hear that title spoken by my grandchild to me.
I hope you and everyone have the greatest new year ever. Be happy, healthy, and safe.

Robert Cameron
Lubbock, Texas

As many others have said, it’s the best gig ever.