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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by AlUpstateNY on Today at 05:54:21 PM »

Actually, that’s not a bad idea. Instead of risking a pint block for a TD or a safety, they would have the security of kicking away with no rush. However, the return guy would do grass drills at practice the next week. 


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  I think the more common scenario for this play to occur would involve:

1. Very short time remaining in either Half, or game.
2. Receiving team down by 3, or less, points.
3. Either really bad/Tipped punt, being fielded (F/C) near mid field.
4. R's 1st play from scrimmage, a sizeable gain ending with a defensive penalty, which combines to bring the next spot within FG range.
5. After penalty, very short time remaining.
6. selecting FK provides for a (virtually) obstruction/block free opportunity to score a FG.
7. K has a much better Kicker, than a planned "Hail Mary" play & passer.

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National Football League / Re: Super Bowl musings......

« Last post by Etref on Today at 05:04:48 PM »

 

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National Football League / Super Bowl musings......

« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 03:28:23 PM »

While the Chiefs have the best ACTIVE QB on our planet, I'llbe rooting for the Eagles (Philly is closer to Maine than K.C.)

i'll say the score before the game even starts to be........

                                         0 - o

(That may change after the kickoff)   

WHAT SAY YOU       

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by ncwingman on Today at 01:13:37 PM »

....good point, Derek, I couls see this hapening following a free kick after a safety. once had a coach ask me : " If my punt return guy was stupid enough to make a fair catch at his one yard line, could I be smart enough to choose to free kick from there than to end up punting from my endline after a failed first down  " Answer :YES, but would need a prevailing gale-force wind to turn it into 3 points.

The risk to reward ratio on this is high, but I could see them trying to do a squib/pooch-onside kick and try to recover the ball 20-30 yards downfield.

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by Derek Teigen on Today at 10:04:26 AM »

Calhoun and Ralph I like the way you guys think.  I had never considered that but it makes total sense in the right situation!

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by CalhounLJ on Today at 07:01:16 AM »

....good point, Derek, I couls see this hapening following a free kick after a safety. once had a coach ask me : " If my punt return guy was stupid enough to make a fair catch at his one yard line, could I be smart enough to choose to free kick from there than to end up punting from my endline after a failed first down  " Answer :YES, but would need a prevailing gale-force wind to turn it into 3 points.

Actually, that’s not a bad idea. Instead of risking a pint block for a TD or a safety, they would have the security of kicking away with no rush. However, the return guy would do grass drills at practice the next week. 


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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 06:22:30 AM »

when ever anybody talks about this free kick after fair catch rule the scenario is always after a punt but don't forget you can free catch a free kick and I have seen some video of team doing just that when it came to giving a fair catch signal when K is attempting an on side or pooch kick.

....good point, Derek, I couls see this hapening following a free kick after a safety. once had a coach ask me : " If my punt return guy was stupid enough to make a fair catch at his one yard line, could I be smart enough to choose to free kick from there than to end up punting from my endline after a failed first down  " Answer :YES, but would need a prevailing gale-force wind to turn it into 3 points.

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by Derek Teigen on Yesterday at 02:05:18 PM »

when ever anybody talks about this free kick after fair catch rule the scenario is always after a punt but don't forget you can free catch a free kick and I have seen some video of team doing just that when it came to giving a fair catch signal when K is attempting an on side or pooch kick.

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by AlUpstateNY on Yesterday at 10:50:50 AM »

I agree that asking the coach is sorta' like asking the scored upon coach if he wishes to kickoff or receive. IMHO, the only reason to ask is a selfish one, you need it to complete your bucket list. 

Ralph, respectfully disagree, a little.  When "unique" circumstances exist (close score, late in the game, botched/poor original FK) and "A's" 1st play from scrimmage includes a foul by B, where the result of the play, plus the penalty yardage dramatically improve field position (to try a FG), reminding the HC of this extremely rare opportunity may well be appropriate, under the guise of "forewarned is forearmed", and eliminates any "Why didn't you tell me" post game complaints.

Of course, if the FG attempt option is selected, there will likely follow the need for detailed explanation to the opposing HC and a "cluster****" of assistance necessary getting both teams properly lined up in a FK formation.

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fair Catch / Free Kick Options

« Last post by Ralph Damren on Yesterday at 07:38:19 AM »

I agree that asking the coach is sorta' like asking the scored upon coach if he wishes to kickoff or receive. IMHO, the only reason to ask is a selfish one, you need it to complete your bucket list.