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Title: NFL offsetting penalties/declined by rule
Post by: BrendanP on March 30, 2019, 02:49:37 PM
Memphis and Orlando in the AAF just now. There are two fouls on the play: illegal man downfield on the offense, roughing the passer on the defense. Instead of the penalties offsetting, the ineligible receiver penalty is "declined by rule" and the roughing the passer is enforced. I'm confused. Why don't these just offset?
Title: Re: NFL offsetting penalties/declined by rule
Post by: Legacy Zebra on March 30, 2019, 03:02:03 PM
Because one is a 5 and one is a fifteen. The NFL has different rules for 5 vs 15 enforcements.
Title: Re: NFL offsetting penalties/declined by rule
Post by: BrendanP on March 30, 2019, 09:39:31 PM
Follow up question: reading the relevant section of the NFL rulebook, it appears to note that a live ball foul by one team and a dead ball foul by the other still results in an offsetting penalty as long as it isn't a 5-and-15.

So as I recall seeing in an NCAA game earlier this season, A70 commits a facemask penalty and B20 commits a personal foul after the play. Both fouls are enforced so the yardage is a wash, but team A ends up with an automatic first down. In the NFL these just offset and the down is replayed?
Title: Re: NFL offsetting penalties/declined by rule
Post by: Kalle on April 01, 2019, 03:07:03 AM
So as I recall seeing in an NCAA game earlier this season, A70 commits a facemask penalty and B20 commits a personal foul after the play. Both fouls are enforced so the yardage is a wash, but team A ends up with an automatic first down. In the NFL these just offset and the down is replayed?

Correct. NFL does not treat DB fouls differently from LB fouls, and any DB foul committed before the LB fouls have been completed would be part of the same set of fouls to be enforced.