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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2017, 10:29:57 PM »
Only 3 of the games came to the Houston Chapter due to Houston team vs Houston team, the rest could have gone to at least one or two other big chapters, I do not think it is a geography issue

You missed the point.  As teams in mid and west Texas beat each other, the remaining playoff teams are in the larger mertropolitan areas.  So, a team from El Paso, Amarillo, Lubbock, etc., would be playing a team from in or around an area like Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, etc., which is far more likely to be played at a site near the metropolitan area than the smaller locality.  Bringing in a crew from Dallas to work a game in Waco between teams from Wichita Falls and Bryan is far more economical than bringing in a crew from the Permian Basin.  At this point in playoffs, that scenario tends to dominate the landscape.  The relative handful of teams remaining from outside the major metro areas - Dallas, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, San Antonio - are more likely going to be either playing teams from those areas, or playing at sites in those areas, making it more attractive to bring in crews from the closer chapter.  The migration of playoff games always moves from rural areas to metropolitan areas, giving the metropolitan area chapters a distinct advantage.  No one should criticize those chapters for that fact.  It is what it is.  But it isn’t because there are not fully competent and qualified officials in the outlying areas.  There danged sure are.  Abilene, San Angelo, Tyler, etc., etc., can put crews as equally competent as any of those in Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, or San Antonio.  Just not as many, and not as cheaply in travel expenses as the chapters in those areas, generally, where the games are being played.
It has always been that way, and it will likely always be that way.  But it has nothing to do with the relative quality and ability of the big chapters versus the smaller chapters.
It is geography.

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2017, 07:40:37 AM »
I think it is a combination of geography and coaches comfort with a chapter overall.  Let's take the Arlington Martin vs Allen game this past weekend which was played at Dragon Stadium in Southlake.  Martin uses FW chapter and Allen uses Dallas chapter.  However, a Houston crew did the game, which is a neutral chapter for both crews. 

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2017, 07:49:35 AM »
Martin uses FW chapter and Allen uses Dallas chapter.  However, a Houston crew did the game, which is a neutral chapter for both crews.
San Antonio, Austin and Tyler/East Texas are all neutral and closer yet they still came to Houston aWaRd

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2017, 08:00:24 AM »
Bringing in a crew from Dallas to work a game in Waco between teams from Wichita Falls and Bryan is far more economical than bringing in a crew from the Permian Basin.  It is geography.

Robert
There’s less than a 1% chance that when the coaches are discussing which chapter/officials to use at this stage in the playoffs travel expense is discussed and becomes a deciding factor. Maybe the first round or two when it’s the teams that are just happy to be there are playing.

“Hey coach let’s use X chapter because their travel will cost us less.”

No way in ...

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2017, 08:35:42 AM »
You are likely correct.

At this point in the season, they fall back to who they (or friend) has used or recommended.

There will be some variations ( Amarillo got several this week which is unusual) but they will normally use they chapter they have used in the past for neutral playoffs
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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2017, 08:39:18 AM »
Let's forget politics and ego for moment and just wish everyone still working a great and fun experience wherever they are  working.  Knock 'em dead, and do the game justice.

Robert

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2017, 03:44:15 PM »
Well said ElvisLives!  Good luck this week everyone and safe travels.

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2017, 03:52:59 PM »
There’s less than a 1% chance that when the coaches are discussing which chapter/officials to use at this stage in the playoffs travel expense is discussed and becomes a deciding factor. Maybe the first round or two when it’s the teams that are just happy to be there are playing.

“Hey coach let’s use X chapter because their travel will cost us less.”

No way in ...

At least for the playoff games that I had this year, the school where the game was at paid us, mileage and all.

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2017, 05:55:14 PM »
At least for the playoff games that I had this year, the school where the game was at paid us, mileage and all.
  This is always (or almost always the case).  The neutral teams rent the stadium from the neutral school district, so the local hosting facility is responsible for accounting for the revenue and netting out the expenses -- such as officials, chain crew, clock, security, EMS, etc etc etc

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #59 on: December 08, 2017, 01:07:36 PM »
Can't not help myself to not ask but are all the crews south of I-20 prepared for the cold and snow that has hit?  Up here in the panhandle it's just another normal December night which means it's a great night for football. 

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2017, 12:24:25 PM »
 Anyone know which chapter had Wimberley -Cuero this week?

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2017, 01:49:46 PM »
Anyone know which chapter had Wimberley -Cuero this week?

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2017, 02:48:53 PM »
Week 5.  Here's what I need info on:

Aledo / Mansfield Legacy
Brock / Kemp

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w2fhukp8tvo1t63/2017TRNY%20Week%201.pdf?dl=0

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #63 on: December 11, 2017, 03:37:31 PM »
Good luck to all crews.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2017, 03:43:32 PM by joelw83 »

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #64 on: December 11, 2017, 04:25:48 PM »
Week 5.  Here's what I need info on:

Aledo / Mansfield Legacy
Brock / Kemp

https://www.dropbox.com/s/w2fhukp8tvo1t63/2017TRNY%20Week%201.pdf?dl=0
  Dallas has Kemp.  I suspect FTW will get Aledo since both schools use FTW during the regular season.

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #65 on: December 12, 2017, 06:51:15 AM »
  Dallas has Kemp.  I suspect FTW will get Aledo since both schools use FTW during the regular season.

I've been informed SA has Aledo.

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #66 on: December 12, 2017, 04:17:49 PM »
Not that it matters, but Katy/LT is in Alamo Stadium.

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Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2017, 03:22:02 AM »
Not that it matters, but Katy/LT is in Alamo Stadium.

I clear all that at the end of any given week, so nope, doesn't matter.  Locations are on there just as convenience and may or may not be right.