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Offline bbeagle

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Pass Interference
« on: October 05, 2016, 11:31:30 AM »
Receiver A1 runs his route 10 yards downfield, makes a cut and tries to run across the field. He is shoved down by B1. The ball is then passed where A1 would be if not shoved down. The ball was not thrown until after the shoving.

I always thought this was defensive pass interference. But is it?

Rule 7-5-10 states that It is forward pass interference if any player of A or B who is beyond the neutral zone interferes with an eligible opponent's opportunity to move toward, catch or bat the pass.

B1 didn't do that. There was no pass at that time, so B1's shove didn't interfere with A1's opportunity to do anything with a pass. Once the pass was thrown, B1 didn't do anything.

Should the rule book be worded differently? Or is this not pass interference?

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2016, 11:35:49 AM »
Pass interference restrictions for B start when the pass leaves the quarterback's hands. It is not possible to have DPI before this point.

Was the block by B1 legal? Hard to tell from your description. You could have holding or illegal use of hands if not.

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 11:42:37 AM »
Pass interference restrictions for B start when the pass leaves the quarterback's hands. It is not possible to have DPI before this point.

Thank you. Rule 7-5-8.

On Sunday, this is Pass Interference, but not in High School. Thanks.

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 12:08:38 PM »
Pass interference restrictions for B start when the pass leaves the quarterback's hands. It is not possible to have DPI before this point.

Was the block by B1 legal? Hard to tell from your description. You could have holding or illegal use of hands if not.

Just to add to "Chitown's" comments, in addition to when restrictions begin for B, remember contact with the receiver is legal as long as he (the receiver) is a potential blocker.  Once he is no longer a potential blocker contact as you describe (shoving the receiver to the ground) would be a foul.

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 01:08:43 PM »
Thank you. Rule 7-5-8.

On Sunday, this is Pass Interference, but not in High School. Thanks.
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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 01:20:56 PM »
Ten yards down the field as a potential receiver, and not blocking, then being shoved down is always Illegal use of hands if a pass is thrown intended for receiver now laying on the ground.

Always.

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2016, 01:49:56 PM »
Was the block by B1 legal? Hard to tell from your description. You could have holding or illegal use of hands if not.

The block was legal in that it is not a take-down hold, just a shove to intentionally put the receiver on the ground.

I see 9-2-3d - A defensive player shall not Contact an eligible receiver who is no longer a potential blocker.

Good. So it is a foul - it's just not pass interference. It's a 10 yard penalty for illegal use of hands. Why can't this be in the section on passing? It's in Rule 9 Conduct of Players and Others.



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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2016, 01:56:02 PM »
Good. So it is a foul - it's just not pass interference. It's a 10 yard penalty for illegal use of hands. Why can't this be in the section on passing? It's in Rule 9 Conduct of Players and Others.

Without trying to be a smart aleck - because illegal use of hands isn't specific to a passing play.

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2016, 02:05:56 PM »
Without trying to be a smart aleck - because illegal use of hands isn't specific to a passing play.

But 9-2-3d _IS_ specific to a passing play. At least include a reference to it in Rule 7.

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2016, 02:14:49 PM »
But 9-2-3d _IS_ specific to a passing play. At least include a reference to it in Rule 7.
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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2016, 01:08:24 PM »
 ^talk Have to agree with earlier response .. "Ten yards down the field as a potential receiver, and NOT blocking, then being shoved down is ALWAYS  Illegal use of hands if a pass is thrown intended for receiver now laying on the ground.


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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2016, 04:18:37 PM »
Couldn't you also call illegal contact?  10 yards from previous spit?

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Re: Pass Interference
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 08:42:10 AM »
There is no such foul as "illegal contact" in the NFHS rulebook. You can call illegal use of hands, or a PF.