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NCAA Discussion / Re: Officials hats
« Last post by zebrastripes on Yesterday at 06:31:36 PM »
I cannot imagine Shaw will allow conference logos to be on hats during the postseason, particularly the CFP. Though I would not be surprised if the CFP officials are forced to wear hats with the CFP logo.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Officials hats
« Last post by Etref on Yesterday at 04:06:09 PM »
Yeah I think the logo hats could be a liability during bowl games, if worn. I agree they are hideous and the logo is too big and doesn't belong on the front. Just wondering what others thought.

kinda like the “UIL” hats from the Texas state championships a few years ago.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Officials hats
« Last post by JBall on Yesterday at 03:57:30 PM »
Yeah I think the logo hats could be a liability during bowl games, if worn. I agree they are hideous and the logo is too big and doesn't belong on the front. Just wondering what others thought.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Officials hats
« Last post by ElvisLives on Yesterday at 02:08:19 PM »
Before Shaw, for certain, there was strong concurrence among NCAA administrators, coordinators, etc., to keep all NCAA officials 100% uniform, not only in the WORN uniform, but in mechanics and game administration. One coordinator, in another attempt to install himself as the king of officiating, and without seeking any sort of approval from the CCA or National Coordinator, had his referees wear white hats with black piping. That only lasted one season. He was told, in no uncertain terms, that this was unapproved, and the entire NCAA was reminded that all officials were to be dressed strictly in accordance with the CCA Manual. That coordinator eventually moved on the NFL (VP of Officiating), where he continued his quest for the crown. He tried hard, but never quite got the crown, as he desired it. He has been "repositioned" a couple of times, but has managed to remain in a position of influence, in the background, over the progress of officials in the league. At least one of his brilliant "on-field" mechanics concepts was quickly abandoned by the current primary officiating leadership. I will say that this individual is not universally...let's say 'appreciated'...in his current environment.
Considering this new hat logo issue started in the conference where he had been coordinator, I can't help but think he had something to do with it, even if just by suggestion. In conference championship games last week, I know I saw one other conference with their logo on the officials hats. I'm guessing Shaw will have to address this in one way or another, before next season. At the very least, if not completely prohibited, I would hope logo hats would be limited to conference games only. But, my guess is that, in today's "anything goes" atmosphere, logos will be allowed by officials working at sites within their home conference. I suspect there is some money changing hands behind the scenes, i.e., uniform supplier provides the logo hats, plus some compensation, in exchange for those conferences to use their hats and/or other items.
Time will tell.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Officials hats
« Last post by dammitbobby on Yesterday at 12:00:50 PM »
I have not seen a single person have anything even remotely positive to say about any of the logos on the hats.

If it were much smaller, and on the side, I think most people wouldn't give it a second thought.
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NCAA Discussion / Officials hats
« Last post by JBall on Yesterday at 11:40:16 AM »
So noticed the big 12 officials hats this year. No offense to anyone who is but does anyone like those?

Is the Big 12 the only conference doing this?
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Georgia Suspensions
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on December 10, 2025, 06:50:44 PM »
You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately however, when you allow "kids to be kids" you often wind up standing in a much deeper pile of "Dung" than anticipated. Before ANYTHING else "Football" was intended & designed to provide a regulated environment where physical conditioning, prowess, and limited/directed strategy could be combined in an enjoyable, REGULATED activity governed by specific rules designed to eliminate dangerous, excessive & counter productive and/or unfair behavior. Participation is dependent on acceptance of the Rules of the game defining behavior.

When those rules are ignored, or abandoned, violators are subject to appropriate penalty as determined by existing rules, subject to decisions by escalating levels of appointed enforcement and where necessary expanded review.  Supportive fans and media speculation & interpretation are NOT material to authorized determinations which may require additional & superior level considerations.

The lessons learned, although currently "unhappy", may prove far more beneficial in the long run to players determined to be discipline, and their team.
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Non-Officiating Discussion / Re: Blog..."Reshaping Teen Behavior"
« Last post by Rglodich on December 10, 2025, 06:23:44 PM »
Thanks for sharing ... love the example.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Georgia Suspensions
« Last post by dammitbobby on December 10, 2025, 02:11:08 PM »
Ted, I hope your question was somewhat hypothetical, if not you need to develop and understand a different view of HS sports.  If you're angry at "getting thumped" your primary concern should be directed at getting better at playing the game.  the teams you face are your opponents, not your enemies. If they are more effective than you, you should focus on their being more talented, more supervised, and more cohesive than you, and what can you, and your team learn from thse differences  and determine what you, and your team, should work harder on to "close those gaps".

You, nor your team, are guaranteed the opportunity of winning.  That is the challenge, that you, and your team, have to rise to.  If your opponent is already at a higher performance level, you might be able to learn from their example and performance.  You are NOT ENTITLED to the satisfaction of success.  That is the objective, open to hard work and dedicated effort at constant improvement until your efforts can EARN victory (& all it's satisfaction). 

Governing bodies are NOT perfect and strive to create an environment (and rules) to insure equal, practical and a FAIR competitive environment. It's up to you, and your teammates to build and master your efforts to achieve FAIR success.  Again, your opponents are NOT YOUR ENEMY, they are there to CHALLENGE your success and ability to achieve YOUR objective.  Observing their performance can be an important part of your learning how to achieve your goals. 

Nobody "owe's" you victory, it is a hard fought pursuit that must be earned by your hard pursued efforts, as defined/limited by "rules" governing BOTH teams.  The taste of "Victory" is sweet, but ONLY when it's achieved the proper way.

That's quite a noble take, but it's also not tethered to reality; one only needs to look any given week at some of the shenanigans occurring in football games - like bench-clearing brawls -  that go viral to see that kids are gonna be... kids, and they're less interested in the fairness of sport perspective than winning, and 'if I feel like I am being disrespected, I can take it out on my opponents enemies'.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Georgia Suspensions
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on December 10, 2025, 01:47:39 PM »
Another thought:  My team is getting thumped like, say, 42-0.  I'm a senior who plays no other sport and I'm angry.  In short, I have nothing to lose so I'm going to get my pound of flesh and maybe get one of the opponent's players ejected so he can't play next week.  A school may have several players with nothing to lose. Instigating a situation, which I don't think was premeditated in this case, would have minimal impact on the losing team's kids.  But, in the future, with this game in mind, another school's kids in a similar situation might see this as a way to take down the opponent they couldn't beat on the field.  It may sound like a stretch, but it does give any sports governing body something else to consider when dealing with such a problem.  It may set a questionable precedent.
Ted, I hope your question was somewhat hypothetical, if not you need to develop and understand a different view of HS sports.  If you're angry at "getting thumped" your primary concern should be directed at getting better at playing the game.  the teams you face are your opponents, not your enemies. If they are more effective than you, you should focus on their being more talented, more supervised, and more cohesive than you, and what can you, and your team learn from thse differences  and determine what you, and your team, should work harder on to "close those gaps".

You, nor your team, are guaranteed the opportunity of winning.  That is the challenge, that you, and your team, have to rise to.  If your opponent is already at a higher performance level, you might be able to learn from their example and performance.  You are NOT ENTITLED to the satisfaction of success.  That is the objective, open to hard work and dedicated effort at constant improvement until your efforts can EARN victory (& all it's satisfaction). 

Governing bodies are NOT perfect and strive to create an environment (and rules) to insure equal, practical and a FAIR competitive environment. It's up to you, and your teammates to build and master your efforts to achieve FAIR success.  Again, your opponents are NOT YOUR ENEMY, they are there to CHALLENGE your success and ability to achieve YOUR objective.  Observing their performance can be an important part of your learning how to achieve your goals. 

Nobody "owe's" you victory, it is a hard fought pursuit that must be earned by your hard pursued efforts, as defined/limited by "rules" governing BOTH teams.  The taste of "Victory" is sweet, but ONLY when it's achieved the proper way.
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