PAT

[oldtimerref]

HOW COULD AN NFL CREW MISS A CALL WHEN IT SEEMED OBVIOUS THE PAT IN TEXANS GAME WAS NO GOOD

[Kalle]

Obvious to who? The calling official who is under the goal post instead of in the stands well off the line of the goal post? With that poor camera angle I have no reason to believe that the call was missed. If you disagree, please post better video than what was shown in the broadcast.

[ElvisLives]

What he (Kalle) said.

[peterparsons]

This, and note that the rule on this is different in the NFL compared to the NCAA.

In the NFL, over the post is still good as long as no part of the ball is outside the post.

The one broadcast clip I've seen of this (from behind the goal post), there's no way to say this call was wrong:

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/referee-says-texans-pat-completely-230528791.html

[ElvisLives]

Maybe we need goals that extend to 50’ above the ground. Might do the trick. But, no guarantee.

[peterparsons]

https://www.dimensions.com/element/rugby-goal-post

Rugby posts go that high (and higher), but their design makes that easier.

Most games in the UK are played on fields that use this style of post and I did once have a kick go directly over the top of the post.

[ElvisLives]

https://www.dimensions.com/element/rugby-goal-post

Rugby posts go that high (and higher), but their design makes that easier.

Most games in the UK are played on fields that use this style of post and I did once have a kick go directly over the top of the post.

Guess you haven’t been around 50 seasons. All American football goals had two full-height uprights until sometime in the 70s. And the NFL used to have goals at the goal line. Then they had offset supports that were a little safer. Then someone figured out how to use a single offset support, which everybody started using. Then the NFL moved their goals to the end line. Then the NCAA changed goals to match the width of the NFL goal (18’-6”). Then the NCAA increased the minimum height of the uprights to 30’ above the ground.
Maybe they need to go to 40’? 50’? Do I hear 60’? From an engineering perspective, the biggest trick is the transition from horizontal to vertical. But, that is easy enough. The wall thicknesses of the pipes for the posts simply need to increase, and/or the diameters of the pipes could also increase. It can be done.

[Kalle]

The one broadcast clip I've seen of this (from behind the goal post), there's no way to say this call was wrong:

That's actually a bit better than what I saw and it supports the on-field call. Look where the ball lands on the ground, it is pretty close to the right upright, and as the path of the ball was a curve to the right, it is very likely that no part of the ball was outside the right upright when it passed over it. Anyway, no good video evidence and the calling official at the right place, trust the official's opinion.