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Not legal.  By definition 22 is not the snapper until he snaps the ball.  In the huddle or standing at the LOS means nothing.  The numbering requirement, and thus the exception, takes effect at the snap, 7-2-5-b.

The exceptions kicks in when "A sets or shifts into a scrimmage kick formation", not at the snap when in said formation, and anybody who sets or shifts into an ineligible position remains ineligible even if they shift to an eligible position later. I do not see any language that requires that they must remain in a scrimmage kick formation.
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Player safety is not a factor in this action.  I'm not going to pretend that it is.

Deception is part of the game.  The case book describes an unfair act as including "actions or verbiage to confuse the defense into believing there is a problem and a snap isn't imminent ..."  This is a live ball.  The offense pretended to do one thing but did something else.  That happens many times every game.

This is not a foul.  Just because the defense stops playing doesn't the offense must stop too.


Agreed, not a foul, but I've got a DB the instant the "fake knee" happens.  Taking a knee is universally accepted as a way to kill a play without contact.  It has no place as part of a play fake.
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This got me thinking (a dangerous past time, I know). The numbering exception kicks in when A sets or shifts into a scrimmage kick formation, but there's no requirement that they remain in that formation or snap the ball in that formation.

In theory, and this is kind of silly, A's snapper could wear 22 the whole game as long as every play starts with the QB being set 10 yards behind the LOS before shifting into a more normal shotgun/under center formation. With the trend of offenses lining up, calling a few signals, then looking to the sideline to see what the play is, it wouldn't be completely absurd.
Not legal.  By definition 22 is not the snapper until he snaps the ball.  In the huddle or standing at the LOS means nothing.  The numbering requirement, and thus the exception, takes effect at the snap, 7-2-5-b. 
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I believe no part of the behavior or tactics is inappropriate.
WOW!
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Well, I guess if any/all deception satisfies your interpretation (and your hat is white) it's your standard.  However, there is a mountain of evidence that allowing "Pandora's Box" to swing open & closed, can be really problematic.  Stopping play to eliminate "perception" of an inappropriate behavior doesn't automatically acknowledge a foul.  It can, hopefully occasionally identify and prohibit an inappropriate behavior that pointing out, will, again hopefully, prevent repetition, which "possibly" then may well be subject to appropriate discipline.

Allowing such "deception" to go unchallenged may likely only encourage repetition, or other inappropriate tactics.
I believe no part of the behavior or tactics is inappropriate.
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General Discussion / Re: Super Bowl trivia tester....
« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 02:04:25 PM »
Delaware: Biden/Flacco
Miami (OH): Harrison/Big Ben
Michigan: Ford/Brady
Stanford: Hoover/Elway/Plunkett
Navy: Carter/Staubach

What do I (actually, AI) win? 😁
aWaRd YEA,ELVIS  aWaRd Back in the early 1900's the U.S. Congree honored Henry J. Ford. One senator said: "You must be really smart  yEs:". Ford replied : "No sir, only smart enough to know who the smart people are  8] >" Today fancy gismos have taken the place of people in many situations.

IMHO the G.O.A.T. (greatest of all time) of the list would be :
                  College - Navy, although Stanford is considered the 'Ivy League of the West Coast.
                   QB - Tom Brady
                   President - none in the top 10, you guys make the choice...

                              FlAg1  :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR: :sTiR:  FlAg1
     
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Player safety is not a factor in this action.  I'm not going to pretend that it is.

Deception is part of the game.  The case book describes an unfair act as including "actions or verbiage to confuse the defense into believing there is a problem and a snap isn't imminent ..."  This is a live ball.  The offense pretended to do one thing but did something else.  That happens many times every game.

This is not a foul.  Just because the defense stops playing doesn't the offense must stop too.

Well, I guess if any/all deception satisfies your interpretation (and your hat is white) it's your standard.  However, there is a mountain of evidence that allowing "Pandora's Box" to swing open & closed, can be really problematic.  Stopping play to eliminate "perception" of an inappropriate behavior doesn't automatically acknowledge a foul.  It can, hopefully occasionally identify and prohibit an inappropriate behavior that pointing out, will, again hopefully, prevent repetition, which "possibly" then may well be subject to appropriate discipline.

Allowing such "deception" to go unchallenged may likely only encourage repetition, or other inappropriate tactics.
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Sorry. Misspoke. Not a foul in NCAA, either. The ball is dead, by rule. No one has to guess or use judgment.
Personally, have never had to apply this rule. But, it is a good rule that allows us all to rule on it consistently.
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General Discussion / Re: Super Bowl trivia tester....
« Last post by ElvisLives on Today at 10:04:51 AM »
Delaware: Biden/Flacco
Miami (OH): Harrison/Big Ben
Michigan: Ford/Brady
Stanford: Hoover/Elway/Plunkett
Navy: Carter/Staubach

What do I (actually, AI) win? 😁
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Player safety is not a factor in this action.  I'm not going to pretend that it is.

Deception is part of the game.  The case book describes an unfair act as including "actions or verbiage to confuse the defense into believing there is a problem and a snap isn't imminent ..."  This is a live ball.  The offense pretended to do one thing but did something else.  That happens many times every game.

This is not a foul.  Just because the defense stops playing doesn't the offense must stop too.
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