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Clock starting following a legal kick down
« on: January 21, 2025, 11:14:03 AM »
For those that work NCAA rules as well as other sets of rules, please understand that when there is a legal kick made during a down (free kick or scrimmage kick), if the next down will start by snap, the game clock will start on the snap. Period. Regardless of which team will put the ball in play, or what else happened during the down, including a legal forward pass (before or after the legal kick), foul(s), etc. One of the few absolutes in NCAA football.

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Re: Clock starting following a legal kick down
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2025, 09:03:07 PM »
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but another, similar 'absolute' would be a TD that is called back for an accepted offensive foul, the GC will start always start on the snap as well.

That's the only other one I can think of.

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Re: Clock starting following a legal kick down
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2025, 09:08:47 PM »
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but another, similar 'absolute' would be a TD that is called back for an accepted offensive foul, the GC will start always start on the snap as well.

That's the only other one I can think of.

Any apparent score. The game clock will next start on the snap, or per free kick rules.
And after an apparent touchback.
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Re: Clock starting following a legal kick down
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2025, 04:25:16 PM »
For those that work NCAA rules as well as other sets of rules, please understand that when there is a legal kick made during a down (free kick or scrimmage kick), if the next down will start by snap, the game clock will start on the snap. Period. Regardless of which team will put the ball in play, or what else happened during the down, including a legal forward pass (before or after the legal kick), foul(s), etc. One of the few absolutes in NCAA football.

Team A is trailing by two in Q4 when their 3rd down field goal try is blocked and remains behind the LOS. Team A player picks up the ball and immediately throws it forward into the ground. Flag for ING with 0:12 on the clock and Team B accepts the 10 second runoff. Clock status?  Not a likely scenario but unless I’m mistaken it takes away the “absolute”.

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Re: Clock starting following a legal kick down
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2025, 08:03:19 PM »
Team A is trailing by two in Q4 when their 3rd down field goal try is blocked and remains behind the LOS. Team A player picks up the ball and immediately throws it forward into the ground. Flag for ING with 0:12 on the clock and Team B accepts the 10 second runoff. Clock status?  Not a likely scenario but unless I’m mistaken it takes away the “absolute”.

Yeah, I should know better than to claim any absolutes, and you clearly conjured an exception. So, an incomplete illegal forward pass (which includes ING) or a backward pass thrown OB with less than 2 minutes in the 2nd or 4th periods would certainly qualify for a 10SS, and for the game clock to start on the snap. And that would supersede the kick down timing rules.

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Re: Clock starting following a legal kick down
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2025, 08:28:56 PM »
And similarly regarding a score, if Team A commits ING in their end zone late in the game, B could accept the foul for a safety, take the 10 second runoff, then the clock would start on the RFP on A’s free kick. As strange as that sounds, is that correct?

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Re: Clock starting following a legal kick down
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2025, 08:51:21 PM »
And similarly regarding a score, if Team A commits ING in their end zone late in the game, B could accept the foul for a safety, take the 10 second runoff, then the clock would start on the RFP on A’s free kick. As strange as that sounds, is that correct?

Yes. 3-4-4-VIII covers this. That one would actually be far more probable than the ING after a legal kick play during a down.