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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: Patrick E. on September 07, 2013, 07:12:06 AM

Title: Linemen Movement
Post by: Patrick E. on September 07, 2013, 07:12:06 AM

We are seeing this more and more, similar to college and pro.

Linemen are in a 3 point stance. QB calling signals. Stops and then starts calling out audibles.   Linemen turn and go to one knee as they listen and then get back into 3 point stance. Hand never leaves the ground. Is this a foul?  What is the general philosophy now being accepted on this one?  If not abrupt and not simulating action that we'd see at the snap, is it okay?

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: maven on September 07, 2013, 07:37:34 AM

Legal. And you're asking the right question about simulating the snap.

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: bama_stripes on September 07, 2013, 10:40:22 AM

I think what you are describing is technically a shift.  As long as they are all set for one second before the snap, we have no problem.

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: golfingref on September 07, 2013, 01:50:45 PM

Be sure that any covered ends keep their hands on the ground also. That cost my alma mater twice last Saturday!

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: Mad Mike on September 09, 2013, 02:27:46 PM

Golfingref:

In what game did that occur?

So, if a TE is on the line and covered up by a receiver, is there a requirement in High School ball for him to be in a 3 pt. stance? Or can he simply be standing up and on the line? (And obviously, not going downfield on a pass play!)

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: HLinNC on September 09, 2013, 02:43:19 PM

I think he means once their hands go down, they're locked in if they are interior linemen.  Don't let the TE title confuse you.  He may be a TE by title and number but if he is covered up, he's an interior lineman.

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: golfingref on September 09, 2013, 07:28:42 PM

It happened in the Louisiana Lafayette vs. Arkansas. The TE was covered by a wide out and in a three point stance. When everyone turned to look to the sidelines for the call, the TE lifted his hand.

Title: Re: Linemen Movement
Post by: Atlanta Blue on September 09, 2013, 07:57:14 PM

Quote from: golfingref on September 09, 2013, 07:28:42 PM

It happened in the Louisiana Lafayette vs. Arkansas. The TE was covered by a wide out and in a three point stance. When everyone turned to look to the sidelines for the call, the TE lifted his hand.

The TE didn't lift his hand.  The extra tackle/guard lifted his hand.  If he was covered, he wasn't a TE!