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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: Wildcat66 on September 07, 2013, 10:06:33 AM
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Play: A jumps and possesses pass in end zone. B hits receiver A drives him out of the endzone to the one yard line. As A was going to the ground he bobbled the ball but maintained control when he made full contact with the ground.
Linesman and BJ called touchdown.
Umpire didn't say anything about the play until
crew was in locker room at halftime.
I was moving too play from LJ position and it looked like a good call.
Your thoughts?
Nick
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It's not a catch until his foot touches the ground inbounds.
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It's not a catch until his foot touches the ground inounds.
If the covering official feels that the offensive player possessed the ball at some point after the initial bobble while in the EZ, CB play 7.5.4 tells us it was a touchdown (forward progress in the EZ). If not, UMP is correct (except for spelling) and it would be A's ball at the 1. Can't actually tell from the OP...
PS: Was this a short pass (say from the 15 in) or a longer one? If short, why was the BJ on the goal line: if he was on the end line, or behind the play, how could he rule either way? If long, the L is must be really fast!
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The only thing the U could do at the time was ask the calling officials if they saw the bobble. He has no knowledge of possession in relation to the goal line. If they didn't see the bobble they have to stick with their call. If they saw it but forgot to factor it, it is up to them to decide if they want to change their call. The U should provide this information during the dead ball period and not in the locker room if he's absolutely certain there was a bobble.
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This was a short pass and the Linesman was inside the 5 yard line when the receiver leaped and caught the ball in the air in the endzone. BJ was covering the endlline and had a good look at the initial catch but not the end of the play as both players were facing with their backs to the BJ.
There was no argument from anyone about the call but I wish the U had said something about it on the field.
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If I'm envisioning the play correctly, the airborne receiver gained possession, was blocked out of the EZ, then lost possession upon contacting the ground. At that point, it's as if he was never in the EZ.
If he subsequently makes a catch of the bobbled ball, rule on it as if he was never in the EZ. If he's down outside the EZ, he's down. If he is still on his feet and can get into the EZ with possession, that would be a TD.
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If the covering official feels that the offensive player possessed the ball at some point after the initial bobble while in the EZ, CB play 7.5.4 tells us it was a touchdown (forward progress in the EZ). If not, UMP is correct (except for spelling) and it would be A's ball at the 1. Can't actually tell from the OP...
"As A was going to the ground he bobbled the ball but maintained control when he made full contact with the ground."
I thought it was pretty clear. He bobbled the ball after he was out of the EZ and before he touched the ground. A's ball at the 1 yard line IMO.
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If I'm envisioning the play correctly, the airborne receiver gained possession, was blocked out of the EZ, then lost possession upon contacting the ground. At that point, it's as if he was never in the EZ.
According to the OP, he bobbled the ball on his way to the ground, but subsequently regained and maintained possession.
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According to the OP, he bobbled the ball on his way to the ground, but subsequently regained and maintained possession.
OK. That will affect the ruling only if he regained possession with the ball still across the plane of the EZ, and it doesn't sound as if that happened. :)
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The spot would be the furthest most spot where he had control