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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: mantle on September 11, 2013, 11:59:39 AM
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When a free kick following a fair catch is awarded, can the kicker use a kickoff tee and or must there be a holder using an extra point tee? Also, where is that supported in the rule book?
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First, it's the FC that's awarded, not the free kick. ;)
Second, it's a free kick, and it is to be kicked like any other free kick. It does not fall under the exception for safeties that permit a free kick to be punted (6-1-2), so it must be a place kick or drop kick per 2-24-5.
A tee or holder may be used for a place kick. 2-24-7
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The question about the kicking tee requires a combination of rules. 7.1.4 tells us the captain may choose to free kick after a fair catch. Rule 2.24.3 gives us the definition of a free kick and 1.3.4. gives us the definition of a kicking tee. No where in the rule book are we told that a kicking tee cannot be utilized on a free kick after a fair catch, therefore (IMO) it is legal to kick the free kick from a kicking tee or to use a holder with a kicking tee.
7.1.ART. 4 . . . The captain may choose to free kick or snap anywhere between the
hash marks on the yard line through the spot of the catch when a fair catch is
made or through the spot of interference, when a fair catch is awarded. These
choices remain if a dead-ball foul occurs prior to the down, or a foul or an
inadvertent whistle occurs during the down and the down is replayed.
2.24.ART. 3/7 . . . A free kick is any legal kick which puts the ball in play to start a freekick
down. After the ready-for-play signal and before the kick, each player other
Rule 2-25 2011 NFHS Football Rules Page 32
than the kicker and holder for a place kick must be behind his free-kick line. A free
kick is used for a kickoff, for a kick following a safety, and is used if a free kick is
chosen following a fair catch or awarded fair catch.
1.3.ART. 4 . . . A kicking tee shall be made of pliable material which elevates the
lowest point of the ball no more than 2 inches above the ground.
reference 2011 rule book
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Never mind ECILLJ already covered it.
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R makes a fair catch at the 50 yard line. A (formerly R) elects to put the ball in play by a snap. On first and 10, A throws a legal, incomplete forward pass. During the play B is flagged for 1) 5 yard face mask foul; 2) DPI. In either situation, the penalty is accepted.
In 1 it is clear that since the down will be replayed. Therefore, A could choose to put the ball in play via a free kick 6-5-4.
In 2) the 15 yard penalty would give A a first down because it would move the ball past the LTG. Question is would A still have the option of putting the ball in play via a free kick? Does the first down gained via penalty count as a replay of the down or does the new series take away A's option to free kick?
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An accepted live ball penalty on the play would allow A to change it's options. Prab's #2 is an example where A choice could change from scrimmage down to free kick. This could work in the other direction, consider : (1) fair catch @ K's 35; (2) K elects to free kick; (3) kick sails thru the pipes; (4) LBPF flag on K during the kick; (5) ball moved back to 50, out of kicker's range; (6) K decides to become A and take it there with 1st & 10.
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Prab, enforcement of the penalty means we're still replaying the down. So, yes, A retains the option after the DPI.
Ralph beat me to it. And raises a good point about the foul being on the (new) K, still allowing them to have the option.
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Thanks Ralph & VALJ!
I just wasn't sure whether what is technically a new first down due to the DPI penalty enforcement would count as a replay of the original first down for free kick option purposes.
Perhaps I was using a micrometer where a yardstick would suffice.