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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: FroggyRef on September 14, 2013, 11:35:57 PM
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I can't seem to wrap my head around this one. A QB is called for intentional grounding while scrambling in the endzone. Obviously we have a Safety (I believe it's a Safety regardless of whether the penalty is accepted or declined). In this case the 5-yard penalty is accepted. Is there a 5-yard penalty walked off prior to the free kick from the 20 making A free kick from their own 15 yard line? Rules references?
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There is no penalty walkoff, just as there would be no yardage involved had there been holding or blocking below the waist by team A in the end zone. The result of the play as you said is a safety, whether the penalty is accepted or not.
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You might be confusing this case with a penalty during a "scoring play" as in 10-5-1d,e,f. For a foul by the opponent of the scoring team during a try, FG, or TD, the scoring team would have options for enforcement on the KO.
Notice that safeties are not listed under those special enforcement provisions. Instead, the case is covered in 10-5-4, which mentions no KO yardage.
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Guys, thanks for clarifying that for me. We enforced it correctly, but you know how things go when you start over-thinking and second-guessing yourself 24 hours later. Maven, you are correct, there is no mention of distance enforcement on the KO under 8-5-2 (Safety). There is guidance however, for penalty enforcement in the 8-2 (touchdown); 8-3 (try); and 8-4 (field goal) sections as well as their 10-5 Special Enforcements counterparts. Thanks again.