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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: CruiseMan on March 19, 2014, 06:57:44 PM
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Paul Lukas, who runs a popular internet site called UniWatch and is also an occasional columnist on ESPN, posted the following on his site today...
"The National Federation of High Schools has approved the use of wider zebra stripes for high school football officials. The current shirt can still be worn for 2014 and ’15, as long as everyone on a given crew is wearing the same stripes. All officials must switch to the wider stripes by 2016"
Though no link was provided to an official announcement, he posted in the comments section that his source was: "Source: Email that was sent from NFHS to a ref who then forwarded it to me. "
Does anyone have official confirmation of this? Also curious if position placards are included in this change?
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I know through a friend that Oregon posted it for officials on their state website.
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And the Evil Empire strikes again. Somehow I picture Dick Honig in a Darth Vader helmet, but the Rick Moranis version.
So now what will the NCAA switch to, polka dots?
I admit, I was wrong about the black pants but there is no need to change shirts, save to pad the pockets of the collusive #%€£¥$&@ who push this and sign off on it.
>:D >:( hEaDbAnG nAnA pi1eOn
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I don't know that this "news" is really news. I know of at least one state that approved the use of 2" stripes in 2013 provided the crew all dressed alike, with mandatory use of 2" being phased in this year or next. Oh, and placards ARE NOT a part of this mix.
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Colorado is moving to a 2-1/4" stripe. I guess bigger is better. pi1eOn
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We just had to buy new 1 1/2" custom shirts in Virginia. Darn it!
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So much for uniform shirts being.... UNIFORM! cRaZy
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And the Evil Empire strikes again. Somehow I picture Dick Honig in a Darth Vader helmet, but the Rick Moranis version.
So now what will the NCAA switch to, polka dots?
I admit, I was wrong about the black pants but there is no need to change shirts, save to pad the pockets of the collusive #%€£¥$&@ who push this and sign off on it.
>:D >:( hEaDbAnG nAnA pi1eOn
The wider stripes will improve the ability to see sideline field officials from the press box (timers), especially in front of the team box areas, which has become noticeably more difficult with the use of the black trousers.
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The wider stripes will improve the ability to see sideline field officials from the press box (timers), especially in front of the team box areas, which has become noticeably more difficult with the use of the black trousers.
While I believe you are correct, why not just go to these and solve that problem:
(http://cdn3.volusion.com/bcdqn.znhcj/v/vspfiles/photos/TSH1503-P-2T.jpg?1384263877)
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Because somewhere in this country is a high school team who looks at the Oregon Ducks uniforms and says "Pshaw. We can be brighter."
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Paul Lukas, who runs a popular internet site called UniWatch and is also an occasional columnist on ESPN, posted the following on his site today...
"The National Federation of High Schools has approved the use of wider zebra stripes for high school football officials. The current shirt can still be worn for 2014 and ’15, as long as everyone on a given crew is wearing the same stripes. All officials must switch to the wider stripes by 2016"
Though no link was provided to an official announcement, he posted in the comments section that his source was: "Source: Email that was sent from NFHS to a ref who then forwarded it to me. "
Does anyone have official confirmation of this? Also curious if position placards are included in this change?
So is the NFHS mandating that the 1" stripe be phased out by ALL states by 2016? Or will they just be giving states the option of wearing them?
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While I believe you are correct, why not just go to these and solve that problem:
(http://cdn3.volusion.com/bcdqn.znhcj/v/vspfiles/photos/TSH1503-P-2T.jpg?1384263877)
When I was in Intramurals we did that for a season.
I think it was a research project over whether they got less disrespect in the neon than the stripes. I think the grad student theorized that arguing with stripes was expected to an extent. I think the data showed a statistically insignificant increase in unsportsmanlike conduct.
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If you can't see someone in a 1' striped shirt waving his arms over his head, it's time to either purchase glasses or retire. ^no
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If you can't see someone in a 1' striped shirt waving his arms over his head, it's time to either purchase glasses or retire. ^no
The problem is that not all signals involve waving the arms over the head, and people in the team areas seem to be getting taller and taller ^no
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The problem is that not all signals involve waving the arms over the head, and people in the team areas seem to be getting taller and
Hence why most of the crew echoes the signal.
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While I believe you are correct, why not just go to these and solve that problem:
(http://cdn3.volusion.com/bcdqn.znhcj/v/vspfiles/photos/TSH1503-P-2T.jpg?1384263877)
This is what the concession people wear!! pi1eOn
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Colorado is moving to a 2-1/4" stripe. I guess bigger is better. pi1eOn
My thoughts exactly!
This is either a:
- My stripes are bigger than yours (aka willy waving)
Or
- A cunning plan to hide obesity ("I'm getting thinner - my shirt's now only 8 stripes wide instead of 16!")
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•A cunning plan to hide obesity
I've looked at various game photos of myself from some of the freelance photographer websites. Whoever said stripes are slimming is a #@&% liar. :-[
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One of the reasons for the super stripes is so that everyone at the game will know we are Colorado Zebras. Another clue that we are Colorado Zebras is that we will be on Colorado fields. It would be best, as someone else pointed out, if the NFHS would make our uniforms uniform.
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I was watching some film of college game yesterday and it looks to me that the wider stripes are easier to see against the white shirts of the team.
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Whoever Joe Schmeltzer is?
http://www.uni-watch.com/2014/03/19/umass-hoops-used-to-go-untucked/ (http://www.uni-watch.com/2014/03/19/umass-hoops-used-to-go-untucked/)
The National Federation of High Schools has approved the use of wider zebra stripes for high school football officials. The current shirt can still be worn for 2014 and ’15, as long as everyone on a given crew is wearing the same stripes. All officials must switch to the wider stripes by 2016 (big thanks to Joe Schmeltzer). …
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I don't know that this "news" is really news. I know of at least one state that approved the use of 2" stripes in 2013 provided the crew all dressed alike, with mandatory use of 2" being phased in this year or next. Oh, and placards ARE NOT a part of this mix.
You're correct that a few states are already wearing wider stripes.
But the possibility of it being mandated by 2016 is most definitely news.
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The Manual Committee is allowing stripes up to 2 1/4" to be acceptable BUT NEVER MANDATORY. It would become each state's association to decide if or when to address this. IMHO, with the added expense of purchasing 3 shirts (each official currently has short sleeve, long sleeve & long sleeve lined) this should be a decision made by the rank-and-file at our annual meeting in October. Ben Franklin - being a wise ole' sort - when considering a decision, would draw a line down the middle of a paper placing all the + positive + factors on one side and all - negative - factors on the other. ??? MY opinion : +++ = (1) wider stripes makes a wide mammal look smaller; (2) can see ya' better on TV ; (3) makes you look like the NCAA/NFL boys. --- = (1) wider stripes make a short mammal look shorter; (2) reruns of The Rifleman - my favorite show as a kid - are seen more often in Maine than H>S. Football; (3) many of us are more interested in being a good high school official than looking like the big ones; (4) 3 NEW SHIRTS = $150 = 15 less combo pizzas at your favorite spot. There are probably many more +s & -s that you guys can come up with.....and ,oh yes, these icons should be updated to show our spiffy new polecat britches!!!! :) ^flag ^good ^no ^talk ^TD yEs:
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3 shirts, Ralph??!!
Let's see- SS x2, SS mini-micro mesh (gets hot & muggy down south you know) x2, LS 1 regular for cool weather, 1 XXL to layer up under for cold weather, and 1 lined for crappy weather so I am at 5. Add in my Throwback/Old School mesh I drag out annually for that one Saturday afternoon pre-season scrimmage, I'm up to 6.
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Come on guys! The equivalent of two or three game fees per year* is small enough price to pay to look NFL/NCAA "cool"! Some of us would probably just otherwise waste the money on officiating camps, instructional videos, gas, etc.
* This year it is 2" striped shirts, last few years it was NFL pants. Can puce and chartreuse striped socks be far behind?
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* This year it is 2" striped shirts, last few years it was NFL pants. Can puce and chartreuse striped socks be far behind?
Prab, you left out blue bean bags from white.
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Prab, you left out blue bean bags from white.
At least that change makes sense...
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I began my zebradom back in 1969 while in Connecticut that was still a NCAA state. My flag was half red & half white until I moved to Maine in 1971 and was told to get an all red one - I obliged. A few years later I was told I needed to get a yellow one - 'cause you could see 'em better - I could see my red one just fine,but I obliged. I had a solid black hat, until I was told I needed to get one with white piping, as it looked more official - I obliged. Later I became a white hat - only it had a black visor and black piping back then. A few years later I was told I needed to get a solid white one as the black visor could confuse you with the other officials - I tried to figure why anyone would look only at ones visor and not his whole noggin', but I obliged. I'm 5'8" 180 lbs - wider stripes may make me look skinnier as I'm a little fat :), BUT wider stripes will make me look shorter, as at 5'8", I could already be considered vertically challenged :(. I may not oblige. We have reversable jackets that on occasion of a cold/rainy/snowy night, will wear during the game. These have 1" stripes which would require yet another purchase :( If I wanted to look like an NFL official, I'd buy a Jerry Markbreit mask nAnA!
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Just got back from an off season meeting tonight and I haven't heard anything about California switching. I certainly don't want to buy new shirts. So weeks I do games three days in a row and its tough to get the wife to do laundry every day >:D so that means I would need 2-3 short sleeve and 2-3 long sleeves. That's $200+ to replace my shirts.
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......new zebra z^ shirts = $200......trip to laundrymat after giving wife the day off = $ 10...... looking like a NFL ref = PRICELESS !!!! :D ;D :o ::) :P :bOW :!# tiphat: yEs: nAnA cRaZy
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......new zebra z^ shirts = $200......trip to laundrymat after giving wife the day off = $ 10...... looking like a NFL ref = PRICELESS !!!! :D ;D :o ::) :P :bOW :!# tiphat: yEs: nAnA cRaZy
;D
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Work a two state conference. As of now one state vows to stay with current stripe. Other state will allow either current stripe or 2 1/4 stripe with the idea of seeing which one eventually wins out (all officials on game must wear same stripe). My biggest fear would be that eventually they each decide on a different version of wider stripes.
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I would like to know if GA plans on using the 2 in stripes this year. I would like to go ahead and look into getting a few custom shirts with the sublimated logos
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WVOREF, which state is giving the option WV or Ohio?
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WV is supposed to give the option. Don't know if its official yet. Have been told Bruce Maurer in Ohio is opposed to changing to new stripes.
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Fortunately/unfortunately, "looking cool", or being considered competent is better judged by what we do, rather than how we look while we're doing it, but the practical and actual REALITY is that the conversion to black trousers, from white knickers, makes it more difficult vizually to pick up officials on the field, especially along the sidelines, in front of the team box areas.
Surprisingly, the wider stripes, make a noticeable difference in the ability of clock operators to spot field officials, and there doesn't seem to vary much interest in reverting back to white knickers.
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Anyone for white trousers with a black stripe?
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I'm thinking orange jumpsuits.
Orange IS the new black.
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I had a costume last year in the car for my daughter's end of Kindergarden party (going to first grade), which was basically a furry blue bear that we turned into a Cookie Monster (tm?) costume.
Since I had it in the car, I brought it in on game day and put it on instead of my stripes. The guys loved it - but I'll tell you it was only good for cold weather games! Those things are hot!
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I'm thinking orange jumpsuits.
Orange IS the new black.
Or red, I saw a movie where one of the coaches was wearing a red wind suit and he was easy to pick out of the croud!
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Anyone for white trousers with a black stripe?
Only to be worn on games south of the Equator :)!
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Or red, I saw a movie where one of the coaches was wearing a red wind suit and he was easy to pick out of the croud!
I seem to recall that the blindside tackle also picked him out pi1eOn. Hope you got hazardous duty pay, AB. :)!