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Title: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: TXMike on June 29, 2014, 01:10:34 PM
Any difference between last year and this year?

http://youtu.be/Pm3Hmfqgvac
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Legacy Zebra on June 29, 2014, 01:37:59 PM
I don't see anything to warrant a flag even with the new rule change.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Etref on June 29, 2014, 01:59:26 PM
I got nothing

But what is with the R getting the spot and both officials turning their back to OOB players?
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: fencewire on June 29, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
I have nothing..

Except...

R getting the spot.
R and L pointing at the spot
R and L not paying any attention to the OOB players but rather both being sure to dig a hole at the spot.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Rulesman on June 29, 2014, 09:24:02 PM
And B looks like he is merely along for the ride. #nohustle
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Legacy Zebra on June 29, 2014, 11:36:43 PM
I've never worked B so maybe I'm wrong, but he shouldn't be out to the numbers (or where they would be in the end zone in this case), should he? Don't most 5 man manuals have the B pretty much work between the hashes, right? I think we've found more wrong with what the officials are doing than the players.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Andrew McCarthy on June 30, 2014, 09:22:50 AM
What rule change are you referring to that would potentially make a difference in this play?
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: bossman72 on June 30, 2014, 10:09:43 AM
Are you referring to the low hits on the QB rule?  this doesn't apply since he's not in a passing posture and he's out of the tackle box
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Magician on June 30, 2014, 01:32:35 PM
The U waited too long to get to the LOS.  It proved to be non-critical.  I believe the R should have moved to the near sideline sooner.  He was very flat footed for the early part of the play.  The L did a good job of getting deep but staying on the goal line.  Nobody stopped the clock.  The R should have followed the players out of bounds while the L came up and calmly got the spot.

The B also needs to come over and help with clean-up, but he shouldn't get too close.  Because of that I have no issue with his movement here.  The hashes are a good guideline for the B, but don't let is constrain you.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Andrew McCarthy on June 30, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
Are you referring to the low hits on the QB rule?  this doesn't apply since he's not in a passing posture and he's out of the tackle box
The tackle box is not relevant to this rule.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: Legacy Zebra on July 01, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
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The tackle box is not relevant to this rule.
How many times are we gonna have to tell coaches that this year?
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: BlindZebra on July 17, 2014, 09:15:38 AM
Anyone else have a touchdown?
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: zoom on July 17, 2014, 09:55:34 AM
The angle isn't great on this, and it appears the runner's right foot touches OOB after he goes airborne, but before the pylon is knocked over.  I don't think the B2 is correct for the spot, as the ball was at or inside the 1 when it became dead, when the foot touched OOB.  I don't believe it broke the plane before then.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: BlindZebra on July 17, 2014, 10:01:09 AM
Agree!  And I'll go with them on the field.  They are right there.  But by the time his foot hits OOB I feel that the ball has broken the GL.  But just my observation.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: zoom on July 17, 2014, 10:56:21 AM
Agree!  And I'll go with them on the field.  They are right there.  But by the time his foot hits OOB I feel that the ball has broken the GL.  But just my observation.

We'll never know, but when the ball hits the pylon, the player is already OOB, so it must have been very close.
Title: Re: Legal/Illegal Hit
Post by: azsteam on July 17, 2014, 03:56:10 PM
 ^good