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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on September 30, 2014, 09:06:32 PM

Title: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: TXMike on September 30, 2014, 09:06:32 PM: When is a team in a "scrimmage formation" ? (7-1-2-b)
Title: Re: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: Diablo on October 01, 2014, 06:20:19 AM: Quote from: TXMike on September 30, 2014, 09:06:32 PM
When is a team in a "scrimmage formation" ? (7-1-2-b)

When Team A players come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their positions for at least one full second.
????
Title: Re: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: Kalle on October 01, 2014, 06:48:45 AM: Quote from: Diablo on October 01, 2014, 06:20:19 AM
When Team A players come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their positions for at least one full second.
????

So you can't have a false start before everybody comes to a stop? :)
Title: Re: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on October 01, 2014, 09:07:16 AM: Quote from: Diablo on October 01, 2014, 06:20:19 AM
When Team A players come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their positions for at least one full second.
????

That directly conflicts with 7.1.2.b.5: Each of the following is a false start by Team A ...... The offensive team never coming to a one-second stop prior to the snap after the ball is ready for play.
Title: Re: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on October 01, 2014, 09:16:25 AM: Hasn't this been discussed before with the consensus being that "scrimmage formation" is simply 11 (or fewer) team A players in formation with the snapper's hand(s) on the ball such that the snap is imminent?
Title: Re: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: sj_31 on October 05, 2014, 10:45:14 PM: 7-1-4-a-1 to 4.
Title: Re: "Scrimmage formation"
Post by: Kalle on October 06, 2014, 01:24:58 AM: Quote from: sj_31 on October 05, 2014, 10:45:14 PM
7-1-4-a-1 to 4.

So, if you have a player who is neither a lineman or a back, you don't have a scrimmage formation and you cannot have a false start?