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Football Officiating => National Football League => Topic started by: wv ref on February 02, 2015, 09:21:25 AM

Title: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: wv ref on February 02, 2015, 09:21:25 AM

At the end of the SB after the interception when seattle jumped offsides did the center not bob his head, not once but twice.  Shouldn't this be a false start?  Looked pretty intentional to me as they both correlated with 72 jumping. 

Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: Kalle on February 02, 2015, 09:46:41 AM

With the prevalent silent count that is normal center movement, the defense should not react to it.

Title: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: TxSkyBolt on February 02, 2015, 10:56:31 AM

Very possibly an intentional act considered a FST


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Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: Rulesman on February 02, 2015, 11:49:17 AM

Quote from: Kalle on February 02, 2015, 09:46:41 AM

With the prevalent silent count that is normal center movement, the defense should not react to it.

We'll agree to disagree. IMO the 2 head bobs were significant and deliberate attempts to draw the defense into the NZ.

Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: Kalle on February 02, 2015, 01:03:06 PM

Quote from: Rulesman on February 02, 2015, 11:49:17 AM

We'll agree to disagree. IMO the 2 head bobs were significant and deliberate attempts to draw the defense into the NZ.

They probably were, and I don't remember if NE uses the silent count ever. But I think my point still stands, this movement is common in the NFL and should be considered normal center action.

Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: BrendanP on February 02, 2015, 02:20:59 PM

looks to me like SEA lined up in the neutral zone to begin with.

Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: Sumstine on February 02, 2015, 05:12:57 PM

Quote from: BrendanP on February 02, 2015, 02:20:59 PM

looks to me like SEA lined up in the neutral zone to begin with.

Ball was not snapped so lining up in the zone is not a foul. The only things to consider are did A's movement bring them over or did B's movement bring them up.

Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: Ralph Damren on February 06, 2015, 08:17:42 AM

I'm a member of Patriot Nation. I felt the head bobbing constituted a false start. I'm glad the false start wasn't called. I'm glad the NFHS encroachment rule is what it is. I'm glad the Patriots won. I'm glad it's Friday. I'm not glad that it is 10 below zero outside.

                  :patrioticon: aWaRd aWaRd aWaRd aWaRd :patrioticon:

Title: Re: Superbowl False Start / Offsides
Post by: azsteam on February 06, 2015, 04:02:14 PM

Does anybody have a video link of this play?