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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: younggun on August 26, 2015, 07:52:25 AM
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I told a coach at the beginning of the game to please make sure that the 2 yd box was clear for safety issues. He acted like he didn't want to acknowledge me. Later in the game, I stepped backwards to avoid a runner coming near me and I stepped on a coach's foot. Flag down. I just told the white hat sideline warning. Coach started yelling at his staff to get back and basically told me that i needed to give several warnings before I threw my flag b/c the best officials communicate. The flag is the warning
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"coach please keep this area clear during play. If I run into someone it aint going to be pretty."
(as in a larger vehicle hitting a smaller one)
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Its amazing how many coaches don't know that rule, some think that they are allowed to be in restricted area during the play.
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Can we just put those zappy dog callers on the coaches and setup one of those invisible fences around the coaches box? Cross it and get fried. It'd only take about 2 coaches being extra crispy for them all to get it...
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More to this topic. Something I overheard at a FBS game I was on the sideline for.
Grad Asst coach really voicing his opinion on nearly every play to HL.
About 1/2-way through Q2, Grad Asst says to HL, "you're missing a good game."
HL: "Yes, I know, but I got assigned to this game."
The rest of the staff and several players laughed in front of this Grad Asst.
Q2 is nearly over and Defense Coord leans over to HL and tells him (in a joking manner), "I'll never use that line again."
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More to this topic. Something I overheard at a FBS game I was on the sideline for.
Grad Asst coach really voicing his opinion on nearly every play to HL.
About 1/2-way through Q2, Grad Asst says to HL, "you're missing a good game."
HL: "Yes, I know, but I got assigned to this game."
The rest of the staff and several players laughed in front of this Grad Asst.
Q2 is nearly over and Defense Coord leans over to HL and tells him (in a joking manner), "I'll never use that line again."
That is a powder keg of a joke though. If the coach decides to be offended that this game isn't worth your time or thinking that you'd rather be somewhere else.... ooh boy.
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That is a powder keg of a joke though. If the coach decides to be offended that this game isn't worth your time or thinking that you'd rather be somewhere else.... ooh boy.
If the coach is making comments like, "You're missing a good game", he deserves whatever smart alec response he gets. And that's coming from my side of the white stripe!
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If the coach is making comments like, "You're missing a good game", he deserves whatever smart alec response he gets. And that's coming from my side of the white stripe!
Deserves it or not, if the coach complains up the chain about something I said on the sideline, my defense of "Yeah, but he started it!" isn't really going to help me a whole lot.
And if he does complain, he'll conveniently forget what he said that I was reacting to... and all of his assistants will agree, "Coach didn't say nuthin!"
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This was not 2015. Paying homage to a friend that passed (military guys will appreciate this one):
For whatever reason, a frustrated HS Asst Coach decides to tell the LJ, "Well I was a Capt in the Army and blah, blah, compliant, gripe, etc..."
LJ wheels around, looks the guy up and down and says, "I was a MGySgt (E9) in the Marine Corps. I outrank you, so dont try and pull rank on me."
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If the coach is making comments like, "You're missing a good game", he deserves whatever smart alec response he gets. And that's coming from my side of the white stripe!
Thank you, but before that first choice remark, you might give him "The look" (the one your mother gave you that made you wish you had never opened your mouth to begin with). If that doesn't work, he's earned whatever follows.
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"you're missing a good game."
"My apologies coach, I'm not sure I heard you correctly. Could you please repeat that?" :o
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Why say anything? My mantra is if a coach doesn't ask a question, I give him no answer.
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Why say anything? My mantra is if a coach doesn't ask a question, I give him no answer.
Perhaps because the coach said that key word, 'you'. - seems it became a bit personal at that point.
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Life can be so much simpler if you learn to let the first dumb remark pass unchallenged. If someone is hell bent on being stupid, you can bet there will be a second remark, which you can then choose to answer, but there will be quite a few who quickly recognize how stupid they sound and will end it on their own.
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Coach: You're missing a good game.
Wing: Speak up coach, my hearing's as bad as my eyesight.
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Sometimes I really miss working the wing.
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Since when does a GA have the right to say anything like that to an official? Most head coaches I know won't tolerate it.
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"My apologies coach, I'm not sure I heard you correctly. Could you please repeat that?" :o
+1. If he's silly enough or stupid enough to repeat it, he deserves the flag he gets.
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Maybe I am different than most other wings, but comments like that I just never bother to acknowledge. I have found that letting the minor commentary go the 1st or 2nd time, and usually the coach realizes it's a futile effort to try and engage you with stuff like that.
Different story if he says something much worse or personal (or if he actually has a question about a call), but ignoring the little stuff has been effective for me in de-escalating hot head coaches. Plus, if a tiny comment like that gets you riled up, you probably should be doing something else.
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Maybe I am different than most other wings, but comments like that I just never bother to acknowledge. I have found that letting the minor commentary go the 1st or 2nd time, and usually the coach realizes it's a futile effort to try and engage you with stuff like that.
Different story if he says something much worse or personal (or if he actually has a question about a call), but ignoring the little stuff has been effective for me in de-escalating hot head coaches. Plus, if a tiny comment like that gets you riled up, you probably should be doing something else.
Agreed. Flags on coaches should be rare events if you are doing your job well.
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Maybe I am different than most other wings, but comments like that I just never bother to acknowledge. I have found that letting the minor commentary go the 1st or 2nd time, and usually the coach realizes it's a futile effort to try and engage you with stuff like that.
Different story if he says something much worse or personal (or if he actually has a question about a call), but ignoring the little stuff has been effective for me in de-escalating hot head coaches. Plus, if a tiny comment like that gets you riled up, you probably should be doing something else.
Exactly. The wings have the ability to flag the sidelines for a number of issues (this, sideline interference, etc.), but you shouldn't be LOOKING to throw those flags.
A school related metaphor -- it's often said that teachers don't give students grades, students earn grades. We should have have the same attitude with USC flags -- don't be too eager to hand them out; make the (non)players EARN them.
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I told a coach at the beginning of the game to please make sure that the 2 yd box was clear for safety issues. He acted like he didn't want to acknowledge me. Later in the game, I stepped backwards to avoid a runner coming near me and I stepped on a coach's foot. Flag down. I just told the white hat sideline warning. Coach started yelling at his staff to get back and basically told me that i needed to give several warnings before I threw my flag b/c the best officials communicate. The flag is the warning
If there is contact, there is no warning. This is an immediate penalty. (Or did you just tell the white hat to go sideline warning to not make a big deal out of this?)
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Slightly off-topic, but still a great story from Durwood Merrill's book "You're Out (& You're Ugly, Too"):
Clete Boyer was the bench coach for the Yankees when a light-hitting utility player started riding Durwood about balls & strikes.
Boyer got in the player's face & screamed "You ain't ever gonna be anything but a (bleeping)one-oh-five hitter. Now sit down & shut up before someone realizes that you're still in baseball & kicks you out of the game."
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while ago...
Coach (after an obvious late hit away from the play - and he's leading by 3 or 4 TDs): "My guys wouldn't do that...we've been in a lot of big games, and they know better"
My reply: "I've been in a lot of "big games" too, coach - but this ain't one of 'em".....
The look on his face was priceless LOL
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3rd and 2. A is just trying to ensure the first down to keep a long drive going, so the QB starts a hard count and changes cadence. It almost works, as the defensive line flinches, but doesn't encroach (not even close). Guard A57, however, flinches in response to the defense flinching.
^flag
A's Coach -- "Yea! Offsides! First Down! .... Wait, why is it on us?? The defense flinched first!!"
::)
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Jim Harbaugh last night wanted the ball at the yard line where the FG was missed, He was a bit confused, I have heard a few HS coaches say this, I just look at them and SMH! hEaDbAnG
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2014 flashback- "He called timeout when he didn't have any, that's a 10 second run-off"
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Classic Harbugh, out of time outs in the third quarter..... If a coach spends most of the game bitching try this. Wait until he calls a time out and ignore him. As he starts screaming "TIME OUT!" Turn and acknowledge him. When he yells at you for not hearing him tell him calmly that because of his whining you had to tune him out in the first quarter. His look will be priceless.
Other good lines:
"Coach that is excellent rule knowledge of the National Football League"
"Coach, please save a bullet or two for when you need it."
"Be careful Coach, the only reason I'm out here is to get some community service hours."
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OH so you are THAT GUY Martin!!
tiphat:
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best line from a coach that I have heard. Coach yells, Go back to your real job at Footlocker. I had to laugh at that one. nAnA
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Want to know the craziest? It actually drives you nuts.
Dixie Hollins assigned an Assistant to yell how great I was doing on every play. "That was a great spot!" "This guy's the best we've ever had!" Every play, by the end of the first half I was sick of it.
Years later Seminole with no wins in three years vs. StPete number one in the nation. Before the coin toss I nailed the Assistant Coach and Head Coach for two separate USC's. Haven't decided which is worse, a sideline with a voice yelling how great you are or a sideline that won't talk to you. At halftime I asked the HL to switch because I was getting real lonely.
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Had a sub-varsity game the other day on the practice field. There was not a restricted area marked on the sideline. They had these set up on the sidelines
(http://www.anthem-sports.com/assets/images/a47-290_thumbnail.jpg)
I just told the coaches to please stay behind the numbers. They all agreed.
Well, they started creeping in to that restricted area. I hollered out, "Coaches, I need the sideline" and one of the assistant coaches (I reckon the Get Back coach) started hollering, "Everyone get behind the numbers! I guess that is a rule now!"
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best line from a coach that I have heard. Coach yells, Go back to your real job at Footlocker. I had to laugh at that one.
You could also suggest that reminding you again will earn him a 15 yard discount.
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I am back on B's 30 with A punting from A's 20. Punt is blocked into the end zone. one of B's player goes to recover it, bobbles it and then recovers it. Our Ref signals TD. I come running up the sideline for the try. I get to end of the team box and an assistant coach came up to me upset and says B recovered it beyond the end line. I told him do you really want me to call that from 80 yards away.
You really have to wonder sometimes. ::)
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Had a coach at a varsity game tell me. "I cant believe you didnt see that holding behind you" I said coach, Think about what you said. Then he said "oh crap, nevermind" lol