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Football Officiating => Texas Topics => Topic started by: copedaddy on October 09, 2015, 11:07:34 AM
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Since we do not have replay in high school football, what is the "when in question" for a fumble? I have always heard player is down when in question. No cheap turnovers. What say ye?
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Down.
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I am pretty sure we have that in the official philosophies in Mechanics Manual and it says when in question it is a fumble. Video reviews over the years revealed more often than not, when in question it really was a fumble so that is what we are going with.
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I am pretty sure we have that in the official philosophies in Mechanics Manual and it says when in question it is a fumble. Video reviews over the years revealed more often than not, when in question it really was a fumble so that is what we are going with.
Agreed. It even rhymes. When it doubt, the ball is out.
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I vaguely remember a college philosophy document a few years ago suggesting to call fumble if there was replay, but to call down if there was not. The idea being that replay can correct if it is not a fumble, but was called a fumble, but may not (at the time, could not) correct if it was a fumble but was called as down.
Calling as down seems consistent with the when in question rules - incomplete pass and not fumble, forward pass and not backward beyond NZ
The most recent TASO manual I have at hand is 2012, and it doesn't seem to mention either way regarding this.
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I vaguely remember a college philosophy document a few years ago suggesting to call fumble if there was replay, but to call down if there was not. The idea being that replay can correct if it is not a fumble, but was called a fumble, but may not (at the time, could not) correct if it was a fumble but was called as down.
Calling as down seems consistent with the when in question rules - incomplete pass and not fumble, forward pass and not backward beyond NZ
The most recent TASO manual I have at hand is 2012, and it doesn't seem to mention either way regarding this.
Page 79 of the 2015 Manual: When in question, the runner fumbled the ball and was not down.
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I vaguely remember a college philosophy document a few years ago suggesting to call fumble if there was replay, but to call down if there was not. The idea being that replay can correct if it is not a fumble, but was called a fumble, but may not (at the time, could not) correct if it was a fumble but was called as down.
Calling as down seems consistent with the when in question rules - incomplete pass and not fumble, forward pass and not backward beyond NZ
That sounds like a sensible approach to me. No cheap turnovers.
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Page 79 of the 2015 Manual: When in question, the runner fumbled the ball and was not down.
Not being a TASO member this year, I don't have that manual. (the 2012 manual doesn't even *have* a p 79!). I'll hunt one down to prep for my eventual return.
Is that new language for this year?