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Football Officiating => National Football League => Topic started by: medi-ogre on October 19, 2015, 01:30:13 PM

Title: Golden Tate Catch
Post by: medi-ogre on October 19, 2015, 01:30:13 PM

I was a bit disappointed in Mikey P's evaluation of this play as I usually think he's spot on.  The key for me in watching the replay is Tate is not going to the ground when he's attempting to make the catch so that part of the rule should be ignored.  He does get pulled down at the end but not during his attempt to catch.  To clear this rule up, I think they should clarify the going to the ground aspect is only evaluated at first contact with the football.  In this moment is he standing up and running or is he diving/falling or some other such thing. 

He controls the ball with 2 feet down in bounds...that cannot be debated.  Was it enough time?  That's the only aspect that is up for debate.  When watching live it feels like there's a solid beat there where he has control of the ball.  I think they got it right.

Title: Re: Golden Tate Catch
Post by: Kalle on October 19, 2015, 01:42:19 PM

Full disclosure: I'm a Bears fan.

I think this same action by Tate, had the ball fallen to the ground, would have been 100% times called incomplete and the replay would have confirmed the call. There was not enough control and no "football move", which is the standard, as I understand it. I personally would want this called not a catch in our NCAA-based league. But maybe the league explains the call during this week.

Title: Re: Golden Tate Catch
Post by: APG on October 19, 2015, 03:35:05 PM

Disagreed with the overturn....I don't think Tate had possession long enough to be able to be considered a runner (which would mean he completed the process of the catch). Strictly speaking, if this play happened in the field of play, this same play would be called a fumble.

Title: Re: Golden Tate Catch
Post by: Wingmanbp on October 19, 2015, 03:44:05 PM

If Tate was at the sideline and behind dragged out would it still be a catch? I dont think so, So I am confused as well as to why this is a TD. And I have no dog in this fight.

Title: Re: Golden Tate Catch
Post by: Kalle on October 19, 2015, 04:37:17 PM

The little devil inside me says that the league office could not decide if it was better to give a "cheap" TD or a "cheap" turnover, so they decided to go with the score.

Title: Re: Golden Tate Catch
Post by: NorCalMike on October 20, 2015, 01:33:52 PM

NFL has made a catch so difficult to figure out that these plays are going to be controversial forever.