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Title: State
Post by: Clear Lake ref on December 13, 2015, 05:21:45 PM
Anyone know if we get in free with TASO badge?
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Post by: TXPanhandle on December 13, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
It will be up to NRG stadium. Only coaches get in with their card and they will not go on record to get us in.
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Post by: backjudge85 on December 14, 2015, 07:06:44 AM
You will NOT be able to use your TASO ID to get in free at NRG.
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Post by: TXPanhandle on December 14, 2015, 08:04:47 AM
You will NOT be able to use your TASO ID to get in free at NRG.

When the games where in Dallas the UIL website and AT&T stadium had the same approach.  That being we would not be able to use our TASO ID.  When going through the gate at AT&T stadium I was never rejected along with my family.  I will be trying the same tactic but prepared to pay if necessary.
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Post by: backjudge85 on December 14, 2015, 08:36:27 AM
I certainly hope that NRG would do that, but I am not counting on it happening.  Let us all know if it works.
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Post by: joelw83 on December 14, 2015, 11:33:04 AM
Don't be cheating your fellow brothers of gate revenue!!  ;)
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Post by: TexDoc on December 14, 2015, 11:52:06 AM
Don't be cheating your fellow brothers of gate revenue!!  ;)

Yeah, um, I don't think anyone needs to worry much about it in these games.  I'm sure that's why you're winking there.

Title: Re: State
Post by: TXMike on December 14, 2015, 01:33:54 PM
You get paid for working these games?  !  ?  !  ?
Title: Re: State
Post by: TexDoc on December 14, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
You get paid for working these games?  !  ?  !  ?

You don't have to.  When you fill out the forms Thursday just put my name and address on it.
Title: Re: State
Post by: HoustonUmp on December 14, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
Does the UIL allow for a gate since they have gone to the single site, or do they have a fixed amount that each crew gets? 
Title: Re: State
Post by: FatboyHL on December 14, 2015, 02:43:25 PM
Fee is determined by the gate receipts of all games played that day and averaged out.  The schools are paid this way as well. 
Title: Re: State
Post by: fitz13 on December 15, 2015, 05:07:21 PM
any ball park figures on what the attendance should be over the 3 days?
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Post by: TXMike on December 15, 2015, 05:38:24 PM
220,000 in 2013.  260,000 in 2014.  The 2014 number included the 2 6man games.  230-240k seems fair estimate for the 3 days
Title: Re: State
Post by: fitz13 on December 19, 2015, 04:50:37 PM
did anybody use your badge to get in?
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Post by: first_year_guy on December 19, 2015, 05:45:44 PM
I got in fine with badge
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Post by: Joe Stack on December 19, 2015, 06:27:31 PM
I think it will be far less than what it was at Cowboys.
Title: Re: State
Post by: TXMike on December 21, 2015, 09:04:23 AM
And you would be right...

http://usatodayhss.com/2015/texas-football-title-game-attendance-plummets-nearly-100000-at-houstons-nrg-stadium
Title: Re: State
Post by: Welpe on December 21, 2015, 11:37:30 AM
Bet they probably wished they had booted the Cowboys instead.  ;D
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Post by: TexDoc on December 21, 2015, 01:20:49 PM
It really should not be about attendance or money.  These games need to rotate on a yearly basis to the three domed stadiums in the state.
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Post by: Rulesman on December 21, 2015, 01:41:10 PM
It really should not be about attendance or money.
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Post by: DallasLJ on December 21, 2015, 01:51:09 PM
It really should not be about attendance or money.  These games need to rotate on a yearly basis to the three domed stadiums in the state.
  Attendance should be part of it.  The $ from the tournament does help fund the UIL and the schools.  If the other venues can stay within 5% to 10% of each other -- I am all for rotation.  But not a 25% attendance reduction.  That defeats the purpose of a single site -- to generate interest and $
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Post by: beaye1 on December 21, 2015, 01:57:31 PM
There's interest because of the games itself.  What other interest could there be to have it in just JerryWorld other than it being cheaper as far as expenses out than revenue in.  If there were more DFW teams in them there would have been a larger attendance and if it was in JerryWorld this year would DFW even showed up as much with no teams in the fight?
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Post by: DallasLJ on December 21, 2015, 02:38:02 PM
There's interest because of the games itself.  What other interest could there be to have it in just JerryWorld other than it being cheaper as far as expenses out than revenue in.  If there were more DFW teams in them there would have been a larger attendance and if it was in JerryWorld this year would DFW even showed up as much with no teams in the fight?
  DFW had 5 or 6 teams in the games -- just none in 6A.  One team in each of the 5A and 4A games.  So, DFW had as many teams as it usually does.  Houston area seemed to have more teamsthan it usually does -- and attendance was not good.  Just sayin' . , ,
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Post by: psv on December 21, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
I am pretty Jerry will make sure that doesnt happen again :)
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Post by: bctgp on December 21, 2015, 03:42:22 PM
All good comments.  I like the rotating concept as mentioned earlier. Any other way to try and get the right location to maximize attendance is never going to be optimal since it really depends on teams relative to the location making etc. and the decision on where to play is made well before that is decided. 
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Post by: TXMike on December 21, 2015, 03:50:25 PM
I think everyone learned from the experience.   Houston proved they could host it even though the facility was not designed to do so which apparently Jerry World was.  I can understand why there is sentiment to move it around. And now Houston and Dallas are both viable. I really don't think San Antonio's is in the same league and probably not a viable candidate.  Even with the smaller per game crowds, the number of folks in the facility on Saturday would have probably overwhelmed the Alamodome. The number waiting to get into seating as the previous game ended created massive logjams in the hallways.  The hallways at the Alamodome would be hard-pressed to handle the volume.

Look at the populations also.  How many people live within 2 hours of each facility.  That affects the number of people willing to travel to see a game when they have no dog in the fight.
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Post by: Coby on December 21, 2015, 04:28:50 PM
The sponsor suites were a lot smaller then at Jerry World.  A lot of the sponsors were upset quite vocally.  That tells me Jerry World will be the preferred location from here on out.
Title: Re: State
Post by: TexDoc on December 22, 2015, 04:54:36 AM
6.9M in DFW metro area.   6.5M in Houston metro area. 2.4M in SA metro.   2M in Austin metro.  It does make sense to keep it in larger metro areas. 
Title: State
Post by: TxSkyBolt on December 22, 2015, 08:51:21 AM

I think everyone learned from the experience.   Houston proved they could host it even though the facility was not designed to do so which apparently Jerry World was.  I can understand why there is sentiment to move it around. And now Houston and Dallas are both viable. I really don't think San Antonio's is in the same league and probably not a viable candidate.  Even with the smaller per game crowds, the number of folks in the facility on Saturday would have probably overwhelmed the Alamodome. The number waiting to get into seating as the previous game ended created massive logjams in the hallways.  The hallways at the Alamodome would be hard-pressed to handle the volume.

Look at the populations also.  How many people live within 2 hours of each facility.  That affects the number of people willing to travel to see a game when they have no dog in the fight.

Mike I thought it was one price for all games on a given day.


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Title: Re: State
Post by: golobos on December 22, 2015, 08:57:36 AM
At least in Dallas it is the one ticket for all games that day. I would assume Houston did this as well as I dont see how they would clear the stadium between games in a timely fashion.

Mike was referring to the exodus of fans from one game with the fans waiting to get those seats for the upcoming game. It can get pretty crowded in the concourse as fan bases mix together.
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Post by: TXMike on December 22, 2015, 09:18:11 AM
Exactly what I was referring to
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Post by: mccormicw on December 22, 2015, 12:13:16 PM
Although there are downsides, I feel like 30 minutes longer between games would have been better.  I dont like the idea of teams warming up on the sidelines for the next game while the current game is going on. There was also a problem with teams wanting to warm up on the field while the previous games award ceremony was in progress.