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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: tyro01 on September 29, 2016, 03:18:35 PM

Title: Free kick out of bounds
Post by: tyro01 on September 29, 2016, 03:18:35 PM
K free kicks.  R is standing on the side lines when he touches the kick.  By rule, this is a foul on K for free kick out of bounds.  Also, if R intentionally touches the kick while out of bounds, this is also a foul by R for  illegal participation. Rule cited: 6.1.9. SIT C, along with 6-1-9 and 9-6-2b.  Your thoughts?   If I am incorrect, please explain why and cite ruling.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Free kick out of bounds
Post by: ChicagoZebra on September 29, 2016, 03:30:56 PM
Tyro: discussed extensively a few threads down: http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=12899.0
Title: Re: Free kick out of bounds
Post by: tyro01 on September 29, 2016, 03:37:43 PM
So, the kick would be ruled out of bounds once touched by R when any part of R is standing out of bounds.  Foul by K for Free Kick out of bounds, correct?
Title: Re: Free kick out of bounds
Post by: bama_stripes on September 29, 2016, 04:08:21 PM
So, the kick would be ruled out of bounds once touched by R when any part of R is standing out of bounds.  Foul by K for Free Kick out of bounds, correct?

Not necessarily.

If the position of the ball when touched by R is over the field of play, R is responsible for causing the ball to become OOB.

If the position of the ball when touched by R is over OOB, then K is responsible for causing the ball to become OOB.
Title: Re: Free kick out of bounds
Post by: scrounge on September 29, 2016, 04:39:50 PM
Not necessarily.

If the position of the ball when touched by R is over the field of play, R is responsible for causing the ball to become OOB.

If the position of the ball when touched by R is over OOB, then K is responsible for causing the ball to become OOB.

I find nothing that speaks of the position of the ball in determining OOB. Quite the contrary, this case play says it's solely R's status as determined by the feet (or, by implication, anything touching OOB).

 6.1.9 SITUATION C:

R1 is running near a sideline as he attempts to catch a free kick in flight. R1 has:

(a) both feet inbounds; or
(b) one foot on the sideline, when he reaches through the plane of the sideline.

The ball bounces off his hands and lands out of bounds.

RULING: In (a), the ball is not yet out of bounds until it hit the ground there. Since R1 touched it, he caused it to go out of bounds and R will have the ball at the inbounds spot. In (b), since R1 is out of bounds when the ball is touched, the kicker has caused the ball to be out of bounds.