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Title: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: Aussie-Zebra on January 23, 2017, 04:57:36 AM
1st & 10 on the ½ yard line going out. 1:08 remaining in the half. Team A have 0 TO's Team B has 1 TO. Team A say they are going to kneel out the half, so call the half time but Team B wants to play it out - chance of a safety.
Teram A is adamant that they will take a knee and stress that Team B cannot get physical.
Team A at the snap charges forward and makes 3 yards.

USC for unfair act or just part of the game ?
Title: Re: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: hefnerjm on January 23, 2017, 08:28:47 AM
Every snap is a live play.  No where in the rulebook does it say that teams "cant get physical" if one team declares taking a knee.   
Team B has a legit argument to wanting to play it out.  As a general rule, "taking a knee" is a minimum loss of 1 yard when the QB takes a snap under center.  In this situation, Team A has to make the effort to get out of the EZ, and has no right to complain about Team B's level of aggression to stop them from advancing the ball.

Would you have a USC if the QB just completed a long pass and was running up to the line indicating he would "clock" or "spike" the ball, and then ran a play instead?

If Team B is lulled to sleep and doesnt attack in either situation, that is their own fault imho.  No foul.
Title: Re: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: bossman72 on January 23, 2017, 08:55:41 AM
The kneel down is just another play. Not firing off when the other team is taking a knee is just a "sportsmanship" thing.  If it's the first half or the end of the game and the defense is down by less than a score, you can't flag anybody for playing football.
Title: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: TxSkyBolt on January 23, 2017, 09:09:13 AM
In these situations I always remind the offensive line to protect themselves as the defense is fully within its right to aggressively rush the ball carrier.


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Title: Re: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: TampaSteve on January 23, 2017, 01:45:17 PM
Is Greg Schiano coaching down under now?  ;)
Title: Re: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: Aussie-Zebra on January 23, 2017, 02:04:24 PM
Is Greg Schiano coaching down under now?  ;)

Missing him already ?
Title: Re: USC or just part of the game ?
Post by: Kalle on January 24, 2017, 12:37:23 AM
Like others have said, it is not the job of the officials to get involved in the play calling of either team in any situation. If team A says they will take a knee, the only thing that we should do is to remind team B to play smart. It is not a foul if team A then runs a regular play or if team B rushes the QB (obvious late hits are an exception, of course).

The rules do not provide for team A to unilaterally decide to end a quarter if they could take repeated knees to do so. Of course, if BOTH teams agree to end a quarter early, you can do so (provided your competition rules allow it).