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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: Ironhead17 on September 04, 2017, 10:13:53 PM

Title: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: Ironhead17 on September 04, 2017, 10:13:53 PM
Punt went untouched by both teams yet Illegal touching was called...anybody see this and can offer some insight?
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: TxSkyBolt on September 05, 2017, 12:16:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Br2p7Tp-w8

When???
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: Ironhead17 on September 06, 2017, 09:19:12 PM
37:50
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: TXMike on September 06, 2017, 09:47:36 PM
 A illegally touched and recovered at B-24
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: TxSkyBolt on September 07, 2017, 06:09:35 AM
Looks to be a correct illegal touching call to me and good pick up of the KCI flag...great crew coordination.

Kicked ball is recovered by B untouched by A.

Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: dvasques on September 07, 2017, 06:24:55 AM
Kicked ball is recovered by B untouched by A.

Other way around. Recovered by A untouched by B
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on September 07, 2017, 06:15:13 PM
Punt went untouched by both teams yet Illegal touching was called...anybody see this and can offer some insight?

Was not "untouched by both teams".  1st time ball was touched after the kick was by the kicking team when they covered the loose ball at the end of the kick.  That was the illegal touching call.
Title: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: TxSkyBolt on September 08, 2017, 05:27:12 AM
Other way around. Recovered by A untouched by B
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Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: Ironhead17 on September 17, 2017, 12:51:38 PM
I still don't get it...sorry. The punt hits the ground untouched by B (the receiving team) and A (the kicking team) just recovers or downs the ball. What is the rule reference and why is it a penalty?
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: ElvisLives on September 17, 2017, 01:48:00 PM
There is no foul, but there is a an illegal touching violation.  6-3-2 tells us that no player of the kicking team may touch a legally kicked ball that has crossed the neutral zone before it is touched by Team B.  If they do, Team B may take the ball at any spot of illegal touching.  When the kicking team player recovered the kicked ball that had crossed the NZ - untouched by the receiving team - 1) the ball is dead by rule (6-2-6), and 2) that is illegal touching, so the ball belongs to Team B at that spot (also 6-2-6).

Robert
Title: Re: Illegal Touching call in SC vs NCST game
Post by: Kalle on September 18, 2017, 01:45:12 AM
And rule 2-11-4 tells us that touching always precedes possession and control.