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Title: UNS on the coach
Post by: bmem66 on September 25, 2017, 11:27:38 AM
In my Friday night game we had an ejection on a player for punching another player.    We got together and while I was sorting it out and before I could talk to the HC, we got a big loud "F^%$ You" from the HC when he realized the player was being ejected.  He got a UNS for that (1st and only for the game) but could have I ejected him on that alone?
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: bawags06 on September 25, 2017, 11:40:30 AM
Yes, you could have. Rule 9-8-1a, 1c and 1d. Using profanity, disrespectfully addressing a game official, and indicating objections to a game official's decision.

"Any single foul judged by the game official to be flagrant is disqualification."

He broke 3 rules in 2 words. Efficient? Yes. Possible trip to the locker room? Also, yes.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: FLAHL on September 25, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
Absolutely no question about that one. If a coach or player says that to me, he's gone.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: SCHSref on September 25, 2017, 05:42:26 PM
Are 2 words worth $500?  I guess he thought they were.
Title: UNS on the coach
Post by: CalhounLJ on September 25, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
I doubt very seriously any fine came out of his pocket


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Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: scrounge on September 25, 2017, 08:12:06 PM
Not only would he be tossed, but I'd break out my baseball umpire mechanic to chuck him.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: Rulesman on September 25, 2017, 11:21:30 PM
I doubt very seriously any fine came out of his pocket
Another school Supt without a backbone? ???
Title: UNS on the coach
Post by: CalhounLJ on September 26, 2017, 06:53:24 AM
Perhaps. Also, around here the booster clubs are quick to take up a donation for their coach after an ejection. 


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Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: The Roamin' Umpire on September 26, 2017, 08:26:57 AM
If I'm the white hat and a coach says that, he's done for the day.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: VALJ on September 26, 2017, 01:08:39 PM
Agreed. I'll put up with a lot, and if it's something like "you guys suck", I'll give him 15 and he can stay in the game.  That one, on the other hand, is a one-and-done.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: Ralph Damren on September 26, 2017, 02:17:51 PM
Agreed. I'll put up with a lot, and if it's something like "you guys suck", I'll give him 15 and he can stay in the game.  That one, on the other hand, is a one-and-done.
Making it personal makes it a toss
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: mostripes on September 26, 2017, 04:22:14 PM
Exactly.  Between football and wrestling, I try to not have on radar ears and will let the coach know that I had no interest in his conversation until he begged for my attention "YOU......"
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: KWH on September 27, 2017, 09:38:18 AM
In my Friday night game we had an ejection on a player for punching another player.    We got together and while I was sorting it out and before I could talk to the HC, we got a big loud "F^%$ You" from the HC when he realized the player was being ejected.  He got a UNS for that (1st and only for the game) but could have I ejected him on that alone?


That's Flagrant and the head coach is DQ'd.
Remember, after you inform him he is DQ'd, you need to ask him who his new HC will be for the purpose of calling Timeouts.   :!#
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: Rulesman on September 27, 2017, 10:22:15 AM
Remember, after you inform him he is DQ'd, you need to ask him who his new HC will be for the purpose of calling Timeouts.   :!#
Nothing like adding a little fuel to the bonfire.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: Ralph Damren on September 27, 2017, 10:41:22 AM

That's Flagrant and the head coach is DQ'd.
Remember, after you inform him he is DQ'd, you need to ask him who his new HC will be for the purpose of calling Timeouts.   :!#

This  :P could be :P covered  :P in your pregame meeting by asking :

"COACH, JUST IN CASE YOU GET SICK OR JUST IN CASE I GET SICK OF YOU...."

PS : IT IS SUGGESTED THAT YOU DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME.  :puke: pi1eOn :puke:
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: VALJ on September 27, 2017, 12:58:59 PM

That's Flagrant and the head coach is DQ'd.
Remember, after you inform him he is DQ'd, you need to ask him who his new HC will be for the purpose of calling Timeouts.   :!#

Nothing like adding a little fuel to the bonfire.

"Hey, Ref!  Blank you!"

"Coach, who do you want calling time outs the rest of the night?"

"Why?"

 ^flag "Because you're done for the evening."
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: FLAHL on September 27, 2017, 02:07:23 PM
If a player is disqualified in our area, it's a $250 fine for the school.  Had one AD tell me that the fine is passed along to the player's parents and the player can't graduate until it's paid.  Sounded like a reasonable idea to me.  Not sure how it works with coaches. 
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: CalhounLJ on September 27, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
If a player is disqualified in our area, it's a $250 fine for the school.  Had one AD tell me that the fine is passed along to the player's parents and the player can't graduate until it's paid.  Sounded like a reasonable idea to me.  Not sure how it works with coaches.
Yeah, except where I'm from, I know players who don't even know where their parents are. Kinda tough on them.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: Rulesman on September 27, 2017, 08:36:49 PM
Not sure how it works with coaches.
Given what's in the news for college basketball over the past few days, I think we can safety assume there could be a possible source.
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: NorCalMike on September 27, 2017, 10:00:50 PM
This  :P could be :P covered  :P in your pregame meeting by asking :

"COACH, JUST IN CASE YOU GET SICK OR JUST IN CASE I GET SICK OF YOU...."

PS : IT IS SUGGESTED THAT YOU DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME.  :puke: pi1eOn :puke:


 LOL
Title: Re: UNS on the coach
Post by: Eastshire on September 28, 2017, 06:48:58 AM
If a player is disqualified in our area, it's a $250 fine for the school.  Had one AD tell me that the fine is passed along to the player's parents and the player can't graduate until it's paid.  Sounded like a reasonable idea to me.  Not sure how it works with coaches.

Around here coaches get fined $100 and has to take the NFHS course "Teaching and Modeling Behavior."