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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: ElvisLives on September 30, 2017, 01:41:51 PM

Title: First time for everything
Post by: ElvisLives on September 30, 2017, 01:41:51 PM
We study and discuss many things, but some things we just never see - until one day....
In 42 seasons, I had never actually seen - in one of my games - a blocked kick that fell to the ground behind the NZ, then bounced or rolled forward across the NZ before either team could gain possession of the ball. I had seen lots of blocked kicks, but they had either been just deflected and flew across the NZ, or fell to the ground behind the NZ where somebody recovered it.
In my most recent game, the punter took a few steps to one side to attempt a running kick, but a defensive player played a perfect angle and blocked the ball right off the kicker’s foot.  The ball fell to the ground some 4 yards behind the NZ, and had enough momentum to continue forward.  Players of both teams attempted to recover the ball.  The ball was still loose when it crossed the NZ, and a Team A player grasped the ball firmly before any player of Team B touched the ball, less than 1 yard beyond the NZ.  After some momentary “processing,” we awarded Team B a first down, on the illegal touching of a scrimmage kick that had crossed the NZ.
No real issue, other than Team A thought that the block made it anybody’s ball.  Before the ball crossed the NZ, that was true.  But, the ball, in fact, crossed the NZ, so, no, their recovery wasn’t legal.
First time I’d ever actually seen this.

Robert
Title: Re: First time for everything
Post by: dvasques on October 02, 2017, 03:42:51 PM
Now just to make it 100% clear in my mind

There is no neutral zone extended here, right? We extend the NZ only for the block, right?
Title: Re: First time for everything
Post by: ElvisLives on October 02, 2017, 05:04:41 PM
Well, the NZ is not "extended," but, by rule, blocking of a kick in flight by a player of Team B within 3 yards beyond the NZ is NOT considered "touching" of a scrimmage kick beyond the NZ.  Blocking and touching are distinctly different things.

The blocking in this play was well behind the NZ.

Robert