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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: Imperial Stout on September 30, 2018, 09:18:41 PM

Title: B substitution on FG with running clock late in half
Post by: Imperial Stout on September 30, 2018, 09:18:41 PM

I was watching the Baylor Oklahoma game, where Baylor kicked a FG as time expired of the 1st half.  A25 was down, in bounds, short of a first down with 13 seconds left on the GC.  A brings out the FG team, got everyone set ready for the snap, and the umpire backed away with 3 seconds to play.  The ball was snapped at 2 seconds, and the FG was good. 

In this case, B chose not to substitute.  However, if B did subtitute, I just don't see how B would be able to complete the substitution, and line up in that short time period.  Surely, taking an additional 3 seconds longer to decide what to do, substitute, and line up than what it took A to do so should still be considered as attempting to complete a substitution promptly, and thus with the running clock, the GC would reach 0:00 before it can be snapped even though A is ready to go.

Is there any special handling or expectations for team B on how quickly they complete there substitution in this situation?

 

Title: Re: B substitution on FG with running clock late in half
Post by: Clear Lake ref on September 30, 2018, 10:10:28 PM

B should reasonably expect a FG. AR covers the exact scenario that happened.

Title: Re: B substitution on FG with running clock late in half
Post by: bossman72 on October 01, 2018, 08:15:42 AM

Right, we should NOT be holding up the FG team on a mayday field goal near the end of the half as mentioned by the AR.

Title: Re: B substitution on FG with running clock late in half
Post by: dvasques on October 01, 2018, 11:16:59 AM

So the U was wrong to stand on the ball?

Title: Re: B substitution on FG with running clock late in half
Post by: ElvisLives on October 01, 2018, 11:31:41 AM

Quote from: dvasques on October 01, 2018, 11:16:59 AM

So the U was wrong to stand on the ball?

You be the judge.  The AR tells us that, if Team A makes it apparent they will attempt a field goal, with no significant delay in sending in their FG personnel, then Team B has to anticipate such action by Team A, and must be prepared to react immediately.  Team B may not expect any assistance from the game officials in making/completing substitutions, in this singular, specific event.  Like Team B, the game officials must also anticipate such action by Team A, and officiate the substitution process per the AR.

Robert

Title: Re: B substitution on FG with running clock late in half
Post by: ilyazhito on October 01, 2018, 04:27:16 PM

Indeed, this is not a situation where the Iron Cross mechanic will apply, because the offense is not "rushing to the line to cause a disadvantage", and thus the defense must be promptly prepared to respond to the change of personnel. If the defense ends up committing a penalty for encroachment, illegal substitution, offside, it will be enforced, because it is not the officials' responsibility to provide the defense with an opportunity to match up if a substitution is expected (e.g. last second field goal).