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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: ElvisLives on October 31, 2018, 10:22:29 AM
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Speaking of making a legal kick after a pass and/or after Team A being in possession of the ball beyond the NZ, try this true dream play:
Try, B-3. A=6, B=7, 0:02 (4) at the snap.
A11 throws a legal forward pass toward A88 at the B-2, near the left sideline. Just before the ball arrives to A88, B99 grabs an arm of A88, and holds it down, such that A88 cannot lift that arm to catch the pass. The H correctly throws his flag for DPI. However, still at the B-2, A88 is able to make a marvelous one-handed catch (wearing some of those new gloves to which anything will stick, I suppose). But, B99 is able to wrap up A88, such that, although he has managed to advance to the B-1, A88 can see he won't be able to score. A11 has moved to follow the play and is at the B-5 directly behind A88 when A88 throws the ball back to A11, who catches the ball and begins to run laterally toward the opposite side of the field. As he is about halfway between the hash marks, A11 suddenly drop kicks the ball and the ball passes over the cross-bar and between the uprights, scoring a 1-point field goal to tie the game. Yea! (Time in the period expired during the down.)
But, Team A thinks, "Wait! We'll accept the DPI penalty, and repeat the Try, and attempt to score a 2-point touchdown to win the game. Unfortunately 10-2-5-b states:
"Penalties for defensive pass interference fouls on a Try from the three-yard line are enforced half the distance to the goal line. If the Try is successful, the penalty is declined by rule."
Uh oh. Regulation play is over, by rule. Let's go to an Extra Period.
Now, I don't believe for a second believe that is what the rule intends. I don't think anyone thought of the possibility of a successful legal field goal after a pass play on a Try. The rules makers were, most likely, thinking, "If they are throwing a pass on a Try, they are trying to score 2 points, and, the only real likelihood is a successful 2-point touchdown, or an unsuccessful Try. If successful, there would not be a need to repeat the try."
But, wait! Technically, in the play offered, the penalty is declined by rule, so the Try is not repeated.
The rule needs to read, "If Team A scores a touchdown on the try, the penalty is declined by rule."
OK, let me have it. I deserve it.
Robert
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Kyle needs to hurry up and get you some Grandbabies! You've got WAY too much time on your hands!
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Kyle needs to hurry up and get you some Grandbabies! You've got WAY too much time on your hands!
Not pushing, but ever so ready for that day. :)
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One correction: regulation is not over. 0:02 on the clock. Proceed to the kickoff.
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One correction: regulation is not over. 0:02 on the clock. Proceed to the kickoff.
Now, that was pretty moronic (on my part). A Try - the clock expires? What was Red always calling people on That 70's Show? Something about an unintelligent donkey, I believe. That shoe is fitting pretty well, right now.
OK. How about:
Try, B-3, in the extended period after Team A scored a TD during a down in which time expired for the fourth period. Being at home, Team A follows the philosophy of "play for the win at home; tie on the road," and attempts to score a 2-point touchdown on the Try. Yada, yada...
Robert
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Day game or night game? :)
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Day game or night game? :)
ABC Saturday night game of the week...
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The spirit of the rule is that Team A can take the points or replay the try after enforcement of a foul by Team B as reflected in 8-3-3-b-1. This is meant to deal with situations where a 1 point conversion is made with a foul by B and the enforcement may entice Team A to go for 2. I don't think the rules editor contemplated a situation where you would have DPI on a successful 1 point conversion when the language was put into 10-2-5-b. Apply common sense (and 8-3-3-b-1) and give A the option.