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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: CalhounLJ on November 09, 2018, 10:06:19 AM
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Since we are on the topic of crew bloopers, tell me how you would handle this. We were working with a new H 3 weeks ago. 3/10, A gains 3 yds with a flag for illegal formation. I get on the radio and tell the new guy to give the coach his options. Coach wants to accept the penalty. My umpire marks off 5yds, making it 3/15. Coach goes ballistic, calls a TO to talk with me. Apparently my H told him the penalty was illegal participation, and if he accepted the penalty it would be 3/25..
Long story short, we let him have a mulligan on the choice, brought the ball back to 4/7. Took some flack from the other coach..
What would you guys have done?
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I'd have done it that way.
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I think you did the right thing. If we give a coach incorrect information and he acts on what we've told him, and then we find out we gave him the wrong info, we should let him make his decision based on the new, correct info.
Another thought - after 4 years of thinking that radios are great, I'm having second thoughts. I think sometimes they hinder communication more than help. (wish we had those $1,000 units the NFL uses 8])
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On the radio, I would have told H, "Ask the coach if he wants 4th and 7 or 3rd and 15"
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Good point Mark. The screw up was totally on me. He misunderstood what I said.
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In Ohio we never talk to the captains and seldom talk to the coaches about penalty choices. In this case, I want my wing to ask the coach, "Do you want 3rd & 15 or 4th & 7?"
In your play, you did the right thing.
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Considering he was given incorrect information, I'd definitely allow the change.
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On the radio, I would have told H, "Ask the coach if he wants 4th and 7 or 3rd and 15"
Me too. And I also would have given him a mulligan. My response to A’s coach would be “Coach, it was our fault. We’d do the same for you.”
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Don't penalize their team for your team's mistake. Good call , Calhoun aWaRd....
(1) Might warrant an explanation to opposing coach why you are allowing a "mulligan"..
(2) Coaches understand numbers - 3rd &20, etc - much better than the title of the violated rule - "participating without a helmet beyond immediate action" - and the like.
(3) Your rookie HL has learned a lesson he'll never forget....
GET IT RIGHT!!!