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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: Muffinmn58 on May 08, 2019, 08:27:26 PM

Title: DPI Spot
Post by: Muffinmn58 on May 08, 2019, 08:27:26 PM
NCAA Rules
A/2-G/B-10  Ball spotted in middle of the field.  Pass is thrown to the left corner of the endzone.  DB interfears with receiver.  DPI.  By rule, the ball goes to the 2.  A/1-G/B-2.  Where do we spot the ball laterally?  Previous spot (middle) or left hash?  Foul was in the left corner of EZ.

Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: ElvisLives on May 08, 2019, 09:00:51 PM
NCAA Rules
A/2-G/B-10  Ball spotted in middle of the field.  Pass is thrown to the left corner of the endzone.  DB interfears with receiver.  DPI.  By rule, the ball goes to the 2.  A/1-G/B-2.  Where do we spot the ball laterally?  Previous spot (middle) or left hash?  Foul was in the left corner of EZ.

Unless the penalty is enforced at the spot of the foul, the penalty is enforced from the previous spot.  That would put the ball in the middle of the field (at the B-2, in this case).

Robert
Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: bossman72 on May 09, 2019, 08:33:25 AM
Agree with Robert.

Only move the ball laterally if you are putting the ball on top of where the flag was (aka "spot" foul).
Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: Muffinmn58 on May 09, 2019, 11:24:20 AM
OK  That's what I have been doing for years.  However, I was talking to a long time Power 5 Umpire who said that the term "spot" in spot foul only applies to the yardage, not the lateral positioning of the ball.  I have always gone to the spot where the rag is laying on the field (inside the hashes) and spotted the ball there.  I was told that is not correct.  On all DPI enforcements, we should always go back to the previous spot and then go until we either a. get to the yardline of the flag; b. get to the 2; or c. go 15 yards.  The lateral positioning does not change.  Correct or not?
Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: Kalle on May 09, 2019, 11:44:15 AM
Rule 2-25-5: "The spot of the foul is the point at which that foul occurs." Not the yard line, the point.
Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on May 09, 2019, 02:22:25 PM
……...  On all DPI enforcements, we should always go back to the previous spot and then go until we either a. get to the yardline of the flag; b. get to the 2; or c. go 15 yards.  The lateral positioning does not change.  Correct or not?
Correct, I would also refer to rule 10-2 Enforcement Procedures.  DPI is a previous spot foul.
Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: Legacy Zebra on May 09, 2019, 02:51:57 PM
Incorrect. If it is a spot foul, it is a spot foul. If it is 15 yards or to the 2, it is a previous spot foul. The penalty statement for DPI in 7-3-8-c says "Team A's ball at the spot of the foul if the foul occurs fewer than 15 yards beyond the previous spot." As Kalle said, the spot of the foul is just that: a spot. It is not a line. If you are going to the spot of the foul, you go to that spot and the lateral position may pr may not change. If you are going 15 yards or to the 2, the penalty is from the previous spot and thus the lateral position will not change.
Title: Re: DPI Spot
Post by: ElvisLives on May 09, 2019, 05:08:34 PM
Incorrect. If it is a spot foul, it is a spot foul. If it is 15 yards or to the 2, it is a previous spot foul. The penalty statement for DPI in 7-3-8-c says "Team A's ball at the spot of the foul if the foul occurs fewer than 15 yards beyond the previous spot." As Kalle said, the spot of the foul is just that: a spot. It is not a line. If you are going to the spot of the foul, you go to that spot and the lateral position may pr may not change. If you are going 15 yards or to the 2, the penalty is from the previous spot and thus the lateral position will not change.

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