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Football Officiating => National Federation Discussion => Topic started by: NVFOA_Ump on June 27, 2019, 05:04:03 AM

Title: Team A foul in the EZ
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on June 27, 2019, 05:04:03 AM
1st and 10 at the A5 yard line.  A-8 is in shotgun formation and catches the snap 3 yards deep in his own EZ.  Running back A-21 who is next to A-8 attempts to block blitzing LB B-58 and clearly holds him in the EZ so we have a flag down in the EZ.  What are the possible results of:

a.  A-8 immediately tucks the ball away and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.

b.  A-8 tosses a backward pass to WR A-81 who has come around behind him and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.

c.  A-8 throws a forward pass to WR A-81 who catches the ball at the A10 and runs until he is downed at the A26 yard line.
Title: Re: Team A foul in the EZ
Post by: bama_stripes on June 27, 2019, 07:03:09 AM
In A and B, the Basic Spot is the end of the run, the A-26.  In C, it is the previous spot, the A-5.  However, the Enforcement Spot for A,B, and C is the same — the spot of the foul.  Since this spot is in A’s end zone, the result is a safety in all three scenarios. 
Title: Re: Team A foul in the EZ
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on June 27, 2019, 07:29:27 AM
In A and B, the Basic Spot is the end of the run, the A-26.  In C, it is the previous spot, the A-5.  However, the Enforcement Spot for A,B, and C is the same — the spot of the foul.  Since this spot is in A’s end zone, the result is a safety in all three scenarios.

So is it safe to say that these plays all qualify for the "but-one" part in the all-but-one penalty enforcement process?  ie: a foul by the team in possession at the end of the down behind the basic spot?
Title: Re: Team A foul in the EZ
Post by: Ump33 on June 27, 2019, 07:37:53 AM
Agree with the enforcement, but I differ on Play B.  The OP implies the holding foul happened prior to the backward pass.  This would make the foul part of a “Loose Ball Play” as well.