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Title: Scrimmage kic
Post by: Txgarza on September 18, 2019, 01:12:43 PM
Holding on kicking team by lineman before ball is kicked. After ball is received by B and ball carrier is tackled. Dead ball PF by B. What are all the possible enforcements?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: TexDoc on September 18, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
You can apply the holding penalty at the dead ball spot, 10 yards against A.  The DP PF is applied after this penalty, 15 yds on B.  Net is 5 yards against B from DB spot.
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: Txgarza on September 18, 2019, 02:47:16 PM
That’s what was done. But is there more options?
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: Legacy Zebra on September 18, 2019, 02:48:54 PM
You could enforce the holding from the previous spot and then enforce the DB UNR from there. But that would give Team A a new series because of the automatic first down.
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: TexDoc on September 18, 2019, 09:55:50 PM
You could enforce the holding from the previous spot and then enforce the DB UNR from there. But that would give Team A a new series because of the automatic first down.

Right on, and B wouldn’t take that option, obviously. 
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: mccormicw on September 20, 2019, 11:53:02 AM
Doesn't B have the option of tacking on the the holding penalty from the point where the subsequent dead ball belongs to B?  Then the dead ball penalty can be enforced.
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: TxBJ on September 20, 2019, 12:22:38 PM
Doesn't B have the option of tacking on the the holding penalty from the point where the subsequent dead ball belongs to B?  Then the dead ball penalty can be enforced.
Isn’t that what TexDoc posted above?
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: TexDoc on September 20, 2019, 01:10:20 PM
Doesn't B have the option of tacking on the the holding penalty from the point where the subsequent dead ball belongs to B?  Then the dead ball penalty can be enforced.

Yes, that's what I said above.  Maybe not so eloquently. 
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: mccormicw on September 20, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
Sorry Doc.  Missed that somehow.
Title: Re: Scrimmage kic
Post by: TexDoc on September 21, 2019, 05:11:16 PM
Sorry Doc.  Missed that somehow.

 ^no.  nAnA