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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on September 21, 2019, 05:32:39 AM

Title: “Fake Kneel Down”
Post by: TXMike on September 21, 2019, 05:32:39 AM
https://www.si.com/college-football/2019/09/20/tulane-fake-kneel-houston-trick-play-justin-mcmillan
Title: Re: “Fake Kneel Down”
Post by: Clear Lake ref on September 21, 2019, 08:33:15 AM
Not a fan of this type of play. Tulane will get blown up
When they go to do it for real.

It is why I always tell a QB go straight down or I can’t protect you.

Side note, the false start followed by UNR I felt was a bad decision. QB still had ball in hand and it was loud.
Title: Re: “Fake Kneel Down”
Post by: ElvisLives on September 21, 2019, 11:06:21 AM
I must not be seeing the right video.  Is it the one where Tulane is in a “victory” formation, they snap the ball to the QB who immediately hands to ball to a back who simply stays in place momentarily while the QB runs to the right, then the back (#11, now the BC) runs left and out of bounds for a big gain.

If that is the play, what fake kneel?  Neither player that possessed the ball - actually nobody on Team A at all, simulated placing a knee on the ground?  Not even attempted.  Not even the slightest bending of the knees to simulate placing a knee on the ground, by anybody.  I don’t see any ‘legality’ issue at all. Maybe a sportsmanship issue.  But no legality issue.
Am I seeing the right play?

Robert
Title: Re: “Fake Kneel Down”
Post by: TXMike on September 21, 2019, 12:11:58 PM
Hence the subject line in quotes.  Media and team and probably fans are saying fake kneel
Down.  Not us
Title: Re: “Fake Kneel Down”
Post by: ElvisLives on September 21, 2019, 12:37:36 PM
OK.  I didn’t catch the sarcasm.  But I do, now.  Yeah, media are clueless.

Title: Re: “Fake Kneel Down”
Post by: Magician on September 21, 2019, 09:56:46 PM
If they said they are taking a knee and did this I would have a sportsmanship issue. But if they only got in this formation I would just tell the defense to be smart and the offense needs to be ready to block. The formation itself though is almost always used for taking a knee so the rules committee may need to consider something. There are multiple formations used to take a knee though so not sure who they codify it.