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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: ElvisLives on February 26, 2020, 12:56:40 PM

Title: Not difficult, but a 'thinker'
Post by: ElvisLives on February 26, 2020, 12:56:40 PM
I hope I don't 'catch' anybody on these, but are good reminders of the related rules.

INCLUDE GAME AND PLAY CLOCK STATUS IN YOUR RULINGS.

1)
3/19, B-20, left hash, 0:12 (4), clock stopped, 40-second play clock running, A=17, B=19.

Team A decides to attempt a field goal to win the game, knowing they could still try again on 4th down, if the snap is bad or the kick is blocked (and they legally recover behind the NZ). [They just happen to be smart enough to know that, if they do kick the ball legally, the clock will stop after the down, due to the legal kick down.]

From a normal field goal formation (also a scrimmage kick formation, by rule), the ball is snapped, the kick is made, but it is blocked right at the neutral zone.  The ball falls to the ground at the B-21, in the side zone area.  Several players from both teams attempt to recover the ball.  After several seconds, A11 leaps on the ball (still loose from the kick), and firmly holds the ball in his hands at the B-24 as he rolls on the ground several times before coming to a stop at the B-26, with 0:04 remaining on the game clock.

Ruling:

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2)
3/19, B-20, left hash, 0:12 (4), clock stopped, 40-second play clock running, A=17, B=19.

Team A decides to attempt a field goal to win the game, knowing they could still try again on 4th down, if the snap is bad or the kick is blocked (and they legally recover behind the NZ). [They just happen to be smart enough to know that, if they do kick the ball legally, the clock will stop after the down, due to the legal kick down.]

From a normal field goal formation (also a scrimmage kick formation, by rule), the ball is snapped, the kick is made, but it is blocked right at the neutral zone.  The ball falls to the ground at the B-21, in the side zone area.  Several players from both teams attempt to recover the ball.  After several seconds, no player has been able to gain possession of the ball, and the ball is muffed out of bounds at the B-24 (having never travel beyond the neutral zone), with 0:04 remaining on the game clock.

Ruling:
Title: Re: Not difficult, but a 'thinker'
Post by: CW123 on February 26, 2020, 05:16:07 PM
1) A, 4/23 @ B24, snap.
2) B, 1/10 @ B24
Title: Re: Not difficult, but a 'thinker'
Post by: ElvisLives on February 26, 2020, 05:38:36 PM
1) A, 4/23 @ B24, snap.
2) B, 1/10 @ B24

And the play clock?
Title: Re: Not difficult, but a 'thinker'
Post by: ilyazhito on February 26, 2020, 08:31:32 PM
In both cases, the play clock will be at 25 seconds due to the legal kick. 1 is not an A-B-A situation, because B never possessed the ball.
Title: Re: Not difficult, but a 'thinker'
Post by: ElvisLives on February 26, 2020, 09:46:18 PM
Like I said, not particularly difficult, but good review for continuity of downs and timing rules in these situations.
Title: Re: Not difficult, but a 'thinker'
Post by: bossman72 on February 27, 2020, 08:43:42 AM
I've always wondered why in the rules there's a distinction between the kick going OOB versus not, in terms of continuity of downs.